Daimler AG to pay $1.5B to settle emissions cheating - 2010 through 2016 Sprinter vans with “BlueTEC II” diesel engines

WinnieView1

2014 Winnebago View 24G
We heard the 'story' of cash as well, plus repairs needed. We figured we would bank the cash and use it for future dealer service.
 

danski0224

Active member
I'll wait to the last possible moment to ensure benefit of the latest firmware updates, training and experience for service technicians. Let them practice on other vehicles and maybe they'll do mine better.
Let me know when you get your Sprinter fixed, then I'll get mine fixed...

:)
 

ReGULT51

Member
Where did you hear about the money?
"In addition to repairs, current owners and lessees of the affected vehicles may be eligible for payments up to $3,290 as part of a $700 million class-action settlement. Former owners and lessees can receive up to $822.50 depending on how many claims are submitted for the same vehicle. In addition, owners may be eligible for additional compensation if repairs affect vehicle performance."

https://www.consumerreports.org/emissions/mercedes-benz-diesel-emissions-settlement/
 

ReGULT51

Member
Let me know when you get your Sprinter fixed, then I'll get mine fixed...

:)
Wise words indeed.

It is possible to wait too long, though. I have a T1N and there was some sort of recall that, in CA, needed to get done in order to register the vehicle. The fix drained the battery, which was somehow related to the dash speedo, so that needed to be replaced. However, the speedo became difficult to get and eventually, I believe they were discontinued. I think someone came up with a solution of reworking the speedo - don't recall.
 

WinnieView1

2014 Winnebago View 24G
Why the "New Instrument Cluster"?, and wondering exactly what that would include?
 

rollerbearing

Well-known member
Why the "New Instrument Cluster"?, and wondering exactly what that would include?
10 start count down changed to GRADUALLY lengthening start delays???? Hey - I can wish can't I?

Let's also throw in rollback of limp mode activations for any non life/engine threatening conditon. Wishing still.
 

lindenengineering

Well-known member
What kind of work do you think will done on the vans? The information so far seems to be some cash approx. $3k and recall work to be done to the emission system. One website said that would include software, NOx sensor and new copper catalyst. Also, that 85% of the vans must be repaired within three years. I'm in California, so I'm assuming the recall will be tied to vehicle registration. I also read that the vehicles will be checked annually at the dealer for 5 years, to verify that the emissions system is functioning properly.

Since the emission system seems complicated already as is, going in after the fact and making adjustments seems like opening a Pandora's Box. However, perhaps I'm overthinking it. I've read positive experiences post-scandal regarding VW TDIs. What's your take? Make a future with the NCV3 or the beginning of an exit strategy?
Remember or do take into account that the VW emission system is completely different to that on an MB product
Dennis
 

Bawareca

Member
German auto makers are being punished for Germany expressing its will to be independent in the changing geopolitics of the world. Nothing else...
Why BMW has not been punished? Especially after they got Trump mad when they agreed voluntarily to conform to the CARB emission standarts.
 

ReGULT51

Member
Remember or do take into account that the VW emission system is completely different to that on an MB product
Dennis
That’s a great point. I believe the VW doesn’t have DEF? Now that I found the chart from EPA, I’m more at ease. Software plus sensor sounds mild, but for those with more experience with the emission and all inter-related systems, does the settlement make one bullish, bearish or neutral on the NCV3 platform?
 

Dima74

Independent & Self Reliant - From Chattanooga TN
Why BMW has not been punished? Especially after they got Trump mad when they agreed voluntarily to conform to the CARB emission standarts.
Punishment is coming... Especially if the Germans will go ahead and finish Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline with the Russian Federation. You need to look a bid wider to understand it better...
 
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mikeme

2015 LTV IB: 2015 3500 V6
We really could use a block function on this forum to avoid the habitual non-fact posters. (and conspiracy-theory spreaders)

The current status is that the draft agreement is open for a 30 day comment period.

at some time after that, it will be actually approved and put into place.

after that, we may see the details of the technical fixes, and of any owner-incentives MB chooses to offer to help sweeten the pot for us, and help them obtain the 85% compliance that would avoid additional fines for the corporation.

Anyone have actual information on what a copper catalyst is? (which converter is involved?)
 

Bobnoxious

GONE FISHING
We really could use a block function on this forum to avoid the habitual non-fact posters. (and conspiracy-theory spreaders)
All in the spirit of the cancel culture!

Curious Mike, who do you propose as Supreme arbiter of facts, you?

In lieu of CENSURESHIP, How about allowing free expression and exchange of thought and ideas thru debate and allow others to formulate their own conclusions?

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mikeme

2015 LTV IB: 2015 3500 V6
That is what the danger zone is for.

a blocking function would let me block the non-content types who clog my feed. it would not impact anyone else's feed.

(and yes, you would be at the top of my list)

There is an ignore function on the profile page, but it does not seem to have a way to enable and populate this list.
 
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lindenengineering

Well-known member
We really could use a block function on this forum to avoid the habitual non-fact posters. (and conspiracy-theory spreaders)

The current status is that the draft agreement is open for a 30 day comment period.

at some time after that, it will be actually approved and put into place.

after that, we may see the details of the technical fixes, and of any owner-incentives MB chooses to offer to help sweeten the pot for us, and help them obtain the 85% compliance that would avoid additional fines for the corporation.

Anyone have actual information on what a copper catalyst is? (which converter is involved?)
Look at catalysts under Hopcalite and related catalysts for a likely answer
Dennis .
 

asimba2

2016 4cyl High Roof 144
Thanks @ReGULT51 for posting that. I'm wondering what effect the update will have on the life of the exhaust emission components. One would think that a reduction in pollutants could potentially mean less regenerations, with an associated reduction in heat cycling and longer life.
 

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