I see, things are coming into focus. How long did you live and suffer in Frisco?Sounds like doctors are making economical advises?
We already have President who makes medical advises, so how far that craziness will go?
Coming to real life, I moved to Las Vegas from BSan Francisco area.[/B]
Lot of my Californian friends have jobs who can be done from home and regardless pretty strict closures - in CA business still runs in lot of companies.
That doesn't work with Las Vegas casinos, who had to be closed and since they run about 3/4 of Nevada economy, that was economical disaster.
So they reopened casinos couple months ago and now people are dying by multifold.
Not easy decisions for sure.
See the "updated" murals above of Las Vegas major. Somebody evidently made her responsible for deaths and it was published in newspapers, yet nothing changed.Attention to personal responsibility would probably resolve this issue.
Did Sweden do it right? Sort of a whimpy shut-down (some schools).
Do i think Sweden "did it right"? Not at all by comparison with Japan.
As Japan shows, lockdowns are an unnecessary sledgehammer ... but if the population doesn't follow reasonable behavioral guidelines, it's one of the few easily-imposed public health mechanisms available.
--dick (a horse's nosebag holds a LOT of popcorn, and is an effective mask)
Sounds like you did not notice that we do have way less traveling cars and since car travel is the biggest killer in USA - that changed statistics quite a bit.Total deaths in the US are unchanged over previous years.
Everyone is ultimately personally responsible for the outcome of their actions.Please enlighten us your definition of "Personal responsibility"?
Now you are making idiot of yourself. I guess you drive with no seat belts as well?
You can make your outside going 100 times safer by few seconds of inconvenience.
That is good trade in my books.
If its so great in California, why did you move? Oh that's right, people like you voted to make it expensive and authoritarian, then you move to a new state and vote to screw that one up just the same.See the "updated" murals above of Las Vegas major. Somebody evidently made her responsible for deaths and it was published in newspapers, yet nothing changed.
I did not live in the City, but east of San Francisco for 30 years. The best time of my life.
Lot of my CA friends used to live in the City as singles, but when it come to raising the kids - they moved to East Bay.
The same happen to my Vancouver friend, who looking for safe neighborhood ended in Victoria.
Similarly in Las Vegas - looking for house on quiet street, I ended with "1 leg" on desert.
You seem to be ignoring all of the new cases of heart disease, diabetes, suicidal depression, domestic violence, plus those starving countries are getting less food and starving more. So much for bleeding heart liberal kindness.Sounds like you did not notice that we do have way less traveling cars and since car travel is the biggest killer in USA - that changed statistics quite a bit.
Meaning Covid is marginal killer comparing to cars, but when we do have to drive, we can also afford 10 cents for the mask.
You are making my case.You seem to be ignoring all of the new cases of heart disease, diabetes, suicidal depression, domestic violence, plus those starving countries are getting less food and starving more. So much for bleeding heart liberal kindness.
You have no idea what you are talking about.If its so great in California, why did you move? Oh that's right, people like you voted to make it expensive and authoritarian, then you move to a new state and vote to screw that one up just the same.
Millennials suck, and millennials parents suck as well as their grandparents for making millennials possible.Bob brought crucial point IMHO.
I haven't been to Japan, but spend some time in Germany. Their culture is very strict in observing government orders (at least it was years ago, when I was there). They drive on right side of the road, they stop at stop signs, they don't walk where it is posted - quite opposite to what we see in US and actually most of nations surrounding Germany have nonchalant culture as well. It was quite entertaining how Turkish workforce was changing culture on German streets.
Same with Asian people - I met and worked with lot of them in CA. They do observe the orders.
Maybe in your bubble it is working that way, but children have been locked in their houses for over 6 months, no exercise, eating junk food, working towards obesity, diabetes, and heart disease.You are making my case.
With less travel, less dining, less work the crime is much lower and forced diet lower obesity-related deaths as well.
Maybe suicide grow, but what % it has comparing to Covid?
Cant fault you for that, but lets not turn Nevada into Commifornia.You have no idea what you are talking about.
I moved out of CA for my retirement as job is no longer keeping me there, while those millions of citizens who are moving down there - blow the property values out of proportion.
So I cashed on good life I had in CA and bough Las Vegas mansion for 1/4 what I sold my CA house for.
In another words, it is California life, who allow me to retire years before my SS would like me to and have good life without job seeking.