Ho Ho!@ptheland - those numbers seem to be on the extreme end of things. Some comments:
I've been thinking of going to a Transit if I decide to sell my Sprinter some day, but then I read this yesterday, and start thinking I'd never buy a Ford hearing this complete BS:
Fair enough. But let me comment as well.@ptheland - those numbers seem to be on the extreme end of things. Some comments:
Oil changes vary by model year. Mine (2013) calls for 10k oil changes. And there is a lot more to periodic maintenance than oil changes. Engine air filter. Cabin air filter (I have 2 of those, with the rear A/C having its own). Fuel filter. That's just for starters.- oil changes are expensive ($140 in parts if you don't find them on sale), but only every 20k miles (I do mine at 10k)
Brake longevity is a function of how the van is driven. A long-distance expeditor is going to get a lot more miles out of brakes than a plumber making several house calls a day in the city. My Sprinter is for personal use, but a lot closer to the latter than the former.- brakes last a very long time, so they are actually cheap considering you can go 80k plus miles out of them
Agreed. It has apparently taken Mercedes more than a decade to figure this one out. That's absolutely crazy.- roof leak issue really stinks.
I hear a lot of complaints here about DEF tank problems here, generally requiring replacement. I suspect that may be more common than you think. I'll agree that the fuel pump is probably an outlier. But there are always going to be outliers. You just don't know what outlier is going to crop up for you. And whatever it is, it's probably going to cost a grand or two. Nothing much is cheap on these vans.- DEF tank and fuel pump are not terribly common replacement items, but that is a good example of how a expensive these vans can be due to being a Mercedes.
I've thought about a Transit as well. I see two particular benefits that most people would see: better network of both dealer and independent shops, and generally slightly cheaper parts - mainly due to volume (lots of drive train parts shared with pickuup trucks). I'm fortunate to be close to a couple of Sprinter dealers. So most service isn't tough to obtain (except for the cost). But that doesn't help much when you're contemplating a road trip to visit family 400 - 1500 miles away.I've been thinking of going to a Transit if I decide to sell my Sprinter some day, but then I read this yesterday, and start thinking I'd never buy a Ford hearing this complete BS:
Nothing is cheap on anything anymore unless you do it yourself. I have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner 4WD, and it needs new shocks (front and rear). Since it has 235K miles on it, I thought replacing the coil springs at the same time as the shocks would make sense. Oh, and throw in new top mounts for the front shocks, and an alignment. I was expecting about $1,000. Much to my surprise the quote comes back $1,755. $125/hour for labor, ok. Parts markups on the quote are 50% to 100% over what I can buy the same parts for retail. This adds up. I'm not surprised that a speciality part (MB DEF tank with heater, for example) costs what it does all things considered.And whatever it is, it's probably going to cost a grand or two. Nothing much is cheap on these vans.
My last Toyota was a new 2011 tundra and that thing was the worst new vehicle I’ve owned as far as build quality and time spent in shop during the warranty period.Hello,
”I have been driving Toyota for a while now, so reliability is a huge luxury to me.”
......if Toyota made a Sprinter equivalent.....man i wish
Toyota quality isn’t what it once was.
I’ve owned new and used Toyota since 1988.
I've had my Sprinter since October 2012. Total expenditure for maintenance was $19,584 or about $2,797 USD/year for seven years and just over 120,000 miles. Those numbers include two sets of tires, new shocks and one DEF Tank Heater replacement. All work done at Mercedes or Freightliner dealers.I just recently reviewed my Y-O-Y Total Maintenance Cost for the 11.5 years of ownership since new. It is $1730 cad/ $1305 usd. Other than changing light-bulbs, all labour done by shops.
Former ProMaster owner here, so a few comments:Promoster: best interior space usage - they're huge. Cheapest to buy and great dealer network. Downside: funky axle makes ground clearance a challenge. The trans is super slow to shift due to the auto-clutch design.