2007 3.0l - P242F DPF ash accumulation - need ideas!

[220817a]

I posted the picture in another thread, so let me post it again for you personally.
This is intake manifold at 180k miles.
When those engines will still run with huge clogs in intake, they will not perform.

Your picture doesn't really show me anything new or something that I have not seen... Try to take apart an intake of the T1N with over 600K, that does not have flaps, and you will see that the build up is the same or worse and the van perform without any issues.

If you want a permanent solution to the intake manifolds, delete the EKAS system along with the function of the EGR (plug the EGR) and you will have a permanent solution.What you are proposing by cleaning or replacing the intakes, does not guarantee you from not having the issue again.

Here below is a 2013 Sprinter that I modified 3 years ago at 38K for a family member of mine that does courier/expediting services. Look at the pictures of the intakes at 261K. I took it apart last October to replace the oil cooler seals at his request.

https://mega.nz/#F!BjhHmAKQ!Up11nhfthj9UUFnqKJWuBg

 

[Kajtek1]

Deleting emission system is illegal and will not pass the smog more and more states are imposing.
You should read the other thread on same issues. Seems technology catch up with problem and $30 bottle of diesel intake cleaner is good and legal solution. And yes, you will find a video showing that even on engine with lower mileage - cleaning the intake added few HP.

 

[220817a]

Deleting emission system is illegal and will not pass the smog more and more states are imposing.
You should read the other thread on same issues. Seems technology catch up with problem and $30 bottle of diesel intake cleaner is good and legal solution. And yes, you will find a video showing that even on engine with lower mileage - cleaning the intake added few HP.

Sorry man... Nothing exciting or of interest for me on the other thread. 15 years ago when I lived in ATL, me and Bosnian/Romanian and Russian friends were modifying (500-1000 HP) S4/S6s, Evolutions and WRX STIs by incorporating injection of alcohol/ethanol and water in the intake manifold in order to produce more horsepower. I can put together an injection system to inject seafoam or BG in no time, not interested because it is a temporary and preventive fix and not permanent. To use your expression, it is a "tape"...

I will try to explain it to you one more time... The deletion of the EKAS system and EGR can be done in a such a way that it is not detectable as a modification by an emission test since all the components of the EKAS and EGR systems stay plugged in. The deletion of the DEF system is detectable because it requires the removal/unplugging of the SCR control module and NOx sensors from the system. When an emission testing equipment/computer is plugged in the OBD2 port of a Sprinter, it is searching for the SCR control unit and the values from the NOx sensors. If those are not found, you would not pass an emission test in some states.

My solution that I explained it to you multiple times, is a permanent solution. No need to clean or inject anything.

 

[Kajtek1]

If you are so successful in those modifications, why not start separate thread and explain it better?
Here it is spread between other replies and you are not making it clear what engines it can be applied to?

 

[220817a]

If you are so successful in those modifications, why not start separate thread and explain it better?
Here it is spread between other replies and you are not making it clear what engines it can be applied to?

I was not successful in everything as far as modifications... For example, I was not successful in modifying an EDC17CP57, I messed up one ECU recently. It did get stuck in boot mode... There is no success without hiccups, especially in the business of modifying ECUs. Sooner or later you'll mess up, I did 4 times in last 3+ years. Also, modifications are not base on engine type, but ECU type. 2004-2009 US Sprinters have EDC16CP31 ECUs, 2010-2012 EDC17CP01, 2013 OM642 and up have EDC17CP46, 2014 OM651 and up have EDC17CP57. For modification with WinOls software each ECU type requires the correct DAMOS file in order to know for sure which map is what. A bit pricey...

As far as starting a thread about modifications, I don't see modifications being encouraged here on this forum, so don't want to waste time that I don't have... I did help a few on this forum in private, so I'm just going to stick with that. I'm here on this forum to learn from the experience of others in dealing with Sprinter's issues and once in a while I try to help someone with my personal experience about Sprinters. That is all...

If you might be interested in reading and discuss in details about modifications, you can start with these 2 below... Maybe I'll see you there...

https://cartechnology.co.uk/

https://mhhauto.com/

 

[dranoeL]

You can completely delete or reprogram the function of the intake manifold flaps. The intake manifold flaps can be programmed where they stay open at all RPMs/loads of the engine.

On 2007 Sprinter it is very easy to do that since the EDC16 is not encrypted like EDC17 ECUs are on newer Sprinters. You will need a Kess V2 ($70) to read the flash memory of the ECU and to modify you can use ADS DPF EGR Lambda Delete software ($20). With less than $100 you can delete DPF EGR EKAS all by yourself.

https://www.mhhautoshop.com/products/kess-v2-v5-017-online-version-no-token-limited-main-unit

https://www.mhhautoshop.com/product...rt-flap-o2-dtc-2-software-full-2017-5-version

If you have bad intakes or malfunctioning swirl valve that trigger active trouble codes, you will have to use the "Special Functions" option that ADS software has built in hat can completly delete/remove the active codes from the ECU programming, and only after that modify the programming. On EDC16 you can also use the MTX DTC remover to remove codes completely from the programming of the ECU.

https://www.mhhautoshop.com/products/mtx-dtc-remover-1-8-5-0-with-keygen

Forgive me for going off topic, but this ECU modification information reminds me how often I've wanted to disable the highly over sensitive engine oil level sensor on my 2007 with the 3.0 L turbo (OD's @ 65k miles).
Maybe the sensor itself is bad but twice now in about 12k miles I've had a CEL and limp mode on some long steep grades when the oil level was not even a full quart low. I'm the guy who checks his engine oil frequently but with better than 12 quarts of oil capacity I remain doubtful that even if I let it go a couple quarts low, it would not likely to do any serious damage between fuel stops.
I'm wondering if you know whether or not the above mentioned products might be able to delete that oil level sensor?
Appreciate your thoughts.

 

[Kajtek1]

Deleting oil level sensor on engine who has no oil pressure sensor?
Think again.

 

[220817a]

Forgive me for going off topic, but this ECU modification information reminds me how often I've wanted to disable the highly over sensitive engine oil level sensor on my 2007 with the 3.0 L turbo (OD's @ 65k miles).
Maybe the sensor itself is bad but twice now in about 12k miles I've had a CEL and limp mode on some long steep grades when the oil level was not even a full quart low. I'm the guy who checks his engine oil frequently but with better than 12 quarts of oil capacity I remain doubtful that even if I let it go a couple quarts low, it would not likely to do any serious damage between fuel stops.
I'm wondering if you know whether or not the above mentioned products might be able to delete that oil level sensor?
Appreciate your thoughts.

The sensor can be deactivated from the system and the trouble codes that trigger the limp mode can be removed from the programming, but since this has to do with oil level, it would be risky.

 

[dranoeL]

Deleting oil level sensor on engine who has no oil pressure sensor?
Think again.

I could be wrong but I'm quite certain that the oil level sensor (an electronic dipstick) is completely separate and different from the oil pressure sensor. Searching online for images, you will notice they not only look different from each other but they are located at different areas on the engine.

 

[dranoeL]

The sensor can be deactivated from the system and the trouble codes that trigger the limp mode can be removed from the programming, but since this has to do with oil level, it would be risky.

With an easily accessible dipstick under the hood why do I need an electronic one? After 70k miles, no visible leaks or excessive oil usage and routine checking the dipstick and almost 13 guarts of oil, I see absolutely reason to go into limp mode with a CEL for just a quart low.

 

[dranoeL]

Deleting oil level sensor on engine who has no oil pressure sensor?
Think again.

I could be wrong but I'm quite certain that the oil level sensor (an electronic dipstick) is completely separate and different from the oil pressure sensor. Searching online for images, you will notice they not only look different from each other but they are located at different areas on the engine.

 

[98Firebird]

I could be wrong but I'm quite certain that the oil level sensor (an electronic dipstick) is completely separate and different from the oil pressure sensor. Searching online for images, you will notice they not only look different from each other but they are located at different areas on the engine.

Just so you know your engine doesn't have an oil pressure sensor, just the level sensor.