T21 Recall for OM647s - Recommended Dealerships
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Cheyenne
UK 2004 T1N 313CDi
Correction, it is a 2004 MERCEDES chassis and engine, badged as a Freightliner and built out by Forest River.
The ONLY parts on it that are true Freightliner are the badges!
Keith.
He's basically correct. He forgot a comma.
Even the badges aren't Freightliner. They are parts procured by Mercedes for the Sprinter Freightliner execution. The parts that have the Freightliner logo and grill style are licensed under Freightliner. Once the Sprinter has the Freightliner execution it is marketed, sold, and serviced under the Freightliner name.
Anyway. Back to topic.
Just consider anything you need that is engine or drive train related as a NAS aka NAFTA 2004 Sprinter.
vic
To pick nits.
Even the badges aren't Freightliner. They are parts procured by Mercedes for the Sprinter Freightliner execution. The parts that have the Freightliner logo and grill style are licensed under Freightliner. Once the Sprinter has the Freightliner execution it is marketed, sold, and serviced under the Freightliner name.
Anyway. Back to topic.
Just consider anything you need that is engine or drive train related as a NAS aka NAFTA 2004 Sprinter.
vic
autostaretx
Erratic Member
The need to replace the instrument panel has been avoided by MB/Freightliner (Daimler owns Fl) recently coming up with an adapter that plugs in behind the instrument panel (i.e. lift the hump, plug it in, drop the hump) and makes magic happen on the CANbus.
There's a thread about it with photos.
--dick
There's a thread about it with photos.
--dick
XYZdayz
Member
Thanks for the input. I found info on using the adapter that plugs in behind the instrument panel. Now trying to get MB to install the adapter and I guess it needs programing? Dealer in NC is saying he wont touch it unless Mercedes Corp USA reopens the recall on this specific van VIN. Anybody have the trick to get Mercedes Corp USA to reopen the recall? I bought the van used unknowing there was this issue.
autostaretx
Erratic Member
The new add-in module *itself* does not need programming.
The ECM needed reprogramming as part of the T21 recall.
That reprogramming is what triggered/began the "does not fully turn off" symptom.
So: "all you need" is that new module plugged in (i do NOT know if the ECM now uses different recall programming, i'll say "i doubt it")
The module has a price of $300 (probably used by MB to sell to Dodge) if the dealer won't re-open the recall status for your Sprinter.
--dick
The ECM needed reprogramming as part of the T21 recall.
That reprogramming is what triggered/began the "does not fully turn off" symptom.
So: "all you need" is that new module plugged in (i do NOT know if the ECM now uses different recall programming, i'll say "i doubt it")
The module has a price of $300 (probably used by MB to sell to Dodge) if the dealer won't re-open the recall status for your Sprinter.
--dick
doug022984
Sporadic Member Since 2015
I'm one of the ones running the adapter. Still no issues with it. Since I hadn't already performed the T21 recall (MB calls it something different), I didn't have to deal with "re-opening" it, however I can attest that it was still difficult to get the dealer to understand the problem. The new recall procedures unfortunately don't tell the dealer techs anything about the instrument cluster issues that are caused. The only way I got ahold of someone knowledgeable is I complained enough to the dealer and made enough calls to corporate customer service that the sprinter shop foreman called me directly and I didn't have to deal with the advisors or other front desk people. The foreman admitted that they don't really work on T1Ns anymore and hadn't done that recall any time recently, BUT he at least knew who to call. Since my dealer is a certified Sprinter dealer who sells volumes of new sprinters, they have a regional sprinter "REP" who covers multiple dealerships and is apparently a competent person connected to the factory and knew all about the new adapter/instrument cluster problems... Only once THAT person got involved did everything fall in to place.
So not really a trick, but maybe try pressing your dealer for their sprinter rep contact. Once you get in touch with someone who actually knows about the problem with these recalls, I would think they should re-open it. The issue is getting past all the front line customer service people that don't even know what a sprinter van is, let alone recall issues with them.
I did receive a survey from Daimler Vans after my service to which I wrote a stern complaint faulting them more than my actual dealer due to the lack of information they provide to their dealers regarding these recalls. I of course never heard anything back about whether is was read or not.
So not really a trick, but maybe try pressing your dealer for their sprinter rep contact. Once you get in touch with someone who actually knows about the problem with these recalls, I would think they should re-open it. The issue is getting past all the front line customer service people that don't even know what a sprinter van is, let alone recall issues with them.
I did receive a survey from Daimler Vans after my service to which I wrote a stern complaint faulting them more than my actual dealer due to the lack of information they provide to their dealers regarding these recalls. I of course never heard anything back about whether is was read or not.
nico.lindgren
New member
Im looking to get the emissions recall done, I have a 2006 T1N. Any good dealerships you recommend in the so cal area? I don't mind driving a while to find a reputable dealer.
autostaretx
Erratic Member
nico.lindgren
New member
Dodge
Hey!
I’m a proud owner of a 2004 (doh!)
I’m keep getting the p2822 code triggering CEL. I’ve put in time and money into the vehicle to bring it to par (recently bought, and it sat for a long time prior), and now this seems to be the only thing puzzling both me and other mechanics. I’ve seen 2 things from the forum:
1) is that this code is indicative of IC needing replaced. As I also have the dash light issue that goes off after I turn the keys on/off.
2) the code is for solenoid “j” which doesn’t seem to exist.
Are new ICs available? Anyone in PDX area recommend a shop that has experience with this?
I’m a proud owner of a 2004 (doh!)
I’m keep getting the p2822 code triggering CEL. I’ve put in time and money into the vehicle to bring it to par (recently bought, and it sat for a long time prior), and now this seems to be the only thing puzzling both me and other mechanics. I’ve seen 2 things from the forum:
1) is that this code is indicative of IC needing replaced. As I also have the dash light issue that goes off after I turn the keys on/off.
2) the code is for solenoid “j” which doesn’t seem to exist.
Are new ICs available? Anyone in PDX area recommend a shop that has experience with this?
p2822
It is highly unlikely to be related to the J solenoid that the NAG1 transmission doesn't have.
More likely related to the T21 recall.
Skim through this thread.
sprinter-source.com
New IC's aren't available except possibly as NOS. The new module fix may correct your problems. Info for that is in Post #1 near the bottom of the page.
vic
It is highly unlikely to be related to the J solenoid that the NAG1 transmission doesn't have.
More likely related to the T21 recall.
Skim through this thread.
Error code p2822, on 2004 Sprinter 158 WB
Hi, I am trying to see if anyone has dealt with an error code p2822. I did some research on this and it's referring to a Faulty Pressure Control Solenoid 'J'. I've went to europarts-sd.com and try to order this solenoid but it only has a, b or c??? where's j... I've flushed the transmission...
New IC's aren't available except possibly as NOS. The new module fix may correct your problems. Info for that is in Post #1 near the bottom of the page.
vic