Boss 600 Amplified Subwoofer

israndy

2007 LTV Serenity
I saw the Kenwood KSC-SW1 Subwoofer thread and was inspired. Fry's had the Fusion amplified sub for $99 (good price) but it only has audio ins, probably fine if you upgrade your head-end, but I still love the Sound 30 as you probably read in the You Too Can Add REAR speakers to your Factory Sound 20 or 30 thread.

I happened across a cheap $70 delivered 8" amplified sub on eBay. Perhaps used, but it was perfect for my needs and it fit in that USPS flat rate box exactly. I read up on it before committing, and then won the auction. When it arrived I was relieved that it just fit in the space.

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The wiring was similar to the Kenwood, it has a remote like the Kenwood, and I run the rear speaker cable across the dash and down, removing the step cover and going straight into the pedestal for the driver's seat. Under my driver's seat, which looked NOTHING like sikwan's, I found power and ground. If you have not taken off your seat before, just rotate it on the swivel adapter (if you have one) and remove the hex key bolts in the four corners. When lifting and moving the seat don't go far w/o checking for cables that heat your seat or whatever.

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The Red wires are hooked to the battery ALL the time, the Red and Yellow wires are hooked to (hope I have this right) B+ or D+ which is energized ONLY once the alternator is up to speed. I would hook the sub there as I don't want the sub fighting the starter motor for battery (as I had to do after fiddling with this project for a time), and the black is energized when the key is in the Accessory position. Oddly ground is brown, not black, as you can tell by all those brown wires hooked to that nut in the center of the floor space under the seat.

I used one of those Add A Circuit fuse taps from Kragen or Pep Boys, it is a fuse shaped fuse holder that keeps the original circuit in place and if plugged in correctly it allows a second fuse to feed a second circuit (the new one). Now that I had sources for power I got my trusty 8 gauge wire and ran it up thru the pipe in the seat rotation plate with enough cable to run the seat all the way forward and back. Also ran the speaker wire from the stereo thru there and fed all this to the back of the Boss.

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That other wire is the seatbelt sensor. I knew I shouldn't have gone past midnight but I was SO CLOSE to done I plugged ahead and when I turned on the key I heard a pop. Hmmm... did I buy a crap amp? Another fuse, another try, another blow out. Frustrated I went to bed.

In the light of day it was obvious that I had hooked the ground to the 12V and the 12V to ground. Easy fix, and now I know why you ALWAYS protect any wire with power with a fuse.

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With everything attached and working I just needed to mount it and it may seem stupid, but it was so easy, just got some long zip ties and joined them together and looped around the chair support, the loop in the lower right is some extras. It is such a tight fit in there that I actually did some cosmetic damage getting past that spring.

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After initial listening I could hear the spring harmonize with the sub, so I put (not in the photo) a piece of adhesive velcro. Just enough to push the spring away, while still using the tension with the spring to hold the sub in place. I have to keep reminding myself that I don't wanna HEAR the sub, so I turn it down. I know it is there offering me support of the little 4" speakers from JVC that I have in the dash because whenever I turn off the engine the stereo runs for 3 extra seconds w/o a sub and you can REALLY tell it's gone.

Subs are better for movies with car chases, or for hip hop music, but with it turned down so it's not for effect, the affect isn't too bad and it really does fill in the bottom end. I used one of those tone generators to set the volume of the sub and the JVCs go down to about 125 HZ, and the makes a great cross over to the subwoofer.

-Randy
 

tegnamo

Member
I'm about to install a subwoofer in my T1N as well, and I was wondering if I should just tap into those red/yellow wires wherever I happen to find them under the seat, or might that be a tad risky? I mean, perhaps there is an ideal set of red/yellow wires I should go with. I plan to install an inline fuse, as well. Thoughts?
 

maxextz

Rollin Rollin Rollin.....
nice write up:thumbup:

i think you would have been better to turn the sub upside down as the way it is it will get clogged with dust over time.i like the leather cover around the base:hmmm: where did you get that?

 

israndy

2007 LTV Serenity
I'm about to install a subwoofer in my T1N as well, and I was wondering if I should just tap into those red/yellow wires wherever I happen to find them under the seat, or might that be a tad risky? I mean, perhaps there is an ideal set of red/yellow wires I should go with. I plan to install an inline fuse, as well. Thoughts?
The power in all those wires come parallel from a single source. The one difference is that some wires are smaller and don't carry as much. I used one of those Add-a-Circuits that you can get at Kragen, or Grand Auto (crap are they both out of business?) or Pep Boys. Just pop out a fuse that has lots of power and plug this device in. It has two places for fuses, plug the original back in and add one for the subwoofer circuit and then run the wire from the Add-a-Circuit to the sub.
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My memory is fuzzy about which one's come on with the alternator, but I may have been right in the write-up. It could be the Red with Yellow line on it.

-Randy
 

israndy

2007 LTV Serenity
nice write up:thumbup:

i think you would have been better to turn the sub upside down as the way it is it will get clogged with dust over time.i like the leather cover around the base:hmmm: where did you get that?
The dash speakers are mounted this way up, just copying them. The leather is a Gulfstream special, but likely the same as Leisure Travel, or RoadTrek all do on their Sprinter RVs.

-Randy
 

israndy

2007 LTV Serenity
OK, well it HAS been some time, but I finally got the subwoofer working in the Serenity. I know it was awesome in the Gulf Stream, but it is even better now. I took it out of the old RV before selling it and thought it would go straight in. Guess what I was missing?

Ground!

I have tried to hook it up HUNDREDS of times, and my multimeter would tell me I had a PERFECT 12 volt connection, but when I ran music thru, the power light would go out. The problem was that I didn't have enough ground to get more than a Multimeter worth of electricity thru. I was using the screws that mount the bracket for the fire extinguisher that no one has in their Sprinter. I guess they are painted or non-conductive metal, tonight I undid the ONLY screw that would come out of my seat base, and hooked that to the ground wire for the sub.

Speaking of: Are the seat base hex screws 5 MM? I stripped two drivers trying to get them out and could only get one to turn. Guess it's off to the mechanics to get them undone...

So now with the Sub and the replacement speakers (not JVC this time, tried Infinity, but they to were too bright) I am still missing the middle of the music. To help fill out the sound I followed the recommendation of another poster:

https://sprinter-source.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30428



This supports the middle that the 4" speakers cannot, and to tone down their brightness I cut the wires going to the tweeter in the dash speakers.

Spent the night listening to my random music and it is quite balanced. I will still need to be on the road and I'll do that this weekend.

My favorite was Katy Perry's Dark Horse, in my new Volvo it just rattles the car like it's gonna shake apart. Otherwise the Volvo is close to perfect normally. Dark Horse sounds amazing in the cab of the Sprinter. Sadly Katy also does a number on the Bose subwoofer in the back of the RV. Likely a problem for many different stereos, although the bass didn't even register on my Macbook Pro's speakers.

-Randy
 
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maxextz

Rollin Rollin Rollin.....
hope you have a cover to go on them otherwise someones feet will destroy them:shifty:
looking good.:thumbup:
 

GSWatson

2013 144
It's an old thread, but I like that console! Especially after my coffee cup hit the ground for the umpteenth time out of the ashtray holder...
 

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