Sales site reccomendations, why are they so dumb?

[Green Maned Lion]

I was looking for a watch to wear into the shower or to wear when doing work around magnets, stuff like that. I found out there was a deal on a model of watch made by Swatch group member Tissot. They have a model called the PRX, which became inordinately popular, resulting in a million variations on the theme of the design. They jumped the shark in a lot of people's minds by introducing the PRX Digital, this sucker:

Tissot Prx Quartz Digital Gold Dial Unisex Watch T1374633302000

Shop for Prx Quartz Digital Gold Dial Unisex Watch by Tissot at JOMASHOP.

www.jomashop.com

Yes, its gold-tone plated; the cost to me was $150 shipped. I think its a rather good deal for a watch of pretty good finish made partly in Switzerland. I had never shopped on this particular website, but it is of good repute. Not really looking to discuss my taste in beater watches, but rather the following phenomon:

I got an advertising email from them this morning, from which I promptly unsubscribed; I bought via ApplePay and so that is how they got my data: from my purchase of this very watch. I am not likely to buy something from them again for a very long time, because new watches are not something I typically buy. But here is what they suggested I might be interested in:



Me be interested in it? No shit, I just bought one... from you! Why do you think I would want to buy another one just like it?

 

[autostaretx]

They expect (well: hope) that you'll buy some for every member of your extended family!
Or that you're a fashionista who will need one of every color to more appropriately match whatever clothing (or mood) you're wearing that day (or house)

--dick ($20 Casio Alarm Chrono for the last 50+ years)((on a self-installed nylon tubular webbing strap))

 

[Green Maned Lion]

They expect (well: hope) that you'll buy some for every member of your extended family!
Or that you're a fashionista who will need one of every color to more appropriately match whatever clothing (or mood) you're wearing that day (or house)

--dick ($20 Casio Alarm Chrono for the last 50+ years)((on a self-installed nylon tubular webbing strap))

Same model as Bin Laden?

I used to use Vostoks as beaters, but I find myself around magnets more often these days.

I got similar stuff, like back when I bought my Metris, I got endless Youtube ads for the Mercedes Metris. I dun get it.

 

[sikwan]

Sorry, but that style of watch for $150 is nuts. But I'm glad you still like it.

I have this... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VNR3NRW

Multi-function, big digits (eyesight), and cheap. I have 3 different color styles because I'm stupid with that (probably want to get 2 more different color styles). Did I mention it was cheap; ~$20.

 

[ECU]

 

[Green Maned Lion]

Sorry, but that style of watch for $150 is nuts. But I'm glad you still like it.

I have this... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VNR3NRW

Multi-function, big digits (eyesight), and cheap. I have 3 different color styles because I'm stupid with that (probably want to get 2 more different color styles). Did I mention it was cheap; ~$20.

Its different than that type; its a solid link, all stainless steel design. Its built the same (very similar case, same bracelet) as one of these:

Tissot PRX Powermatic 80 Automatic Champagne Dial Men's Watch T1374073302100

Shop for PRX Powermatic 80 Automatic Champagne Dial Men's Watch T1374073302100 by Tissot at JOMASHOP.

www.jomashop.com

But you're not the first to say that; there's a reason they are being priced at almost 70% off MSRP while the automatic version of the same watch is being discounted less than 30%. They are heavy, almost 140 grams, and they are 40mm in size. Its just a different type of product.

 

[Larry M]

You use to do watch repair so you must have an eye. I have to ask why? A shower watch?

 

[dharmasprint]

I stopped wearing a watch for two reasons.
1. Working around high voltage and high current, wearing anything metal is asking for a serious injury at the minimum.
2. Our society is obsessed with time. There's a clock on or in almost every building, appliance, car, media source, etc. I just use my phone if I really need to know with accuracy.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

I own a lot of watches; hundreds. But almost all of them are mechanical, so are adversely affected by magnetism and impact, and almost all of them are well past their 10th birthday (generally very past it- as in over 50). Once a watch reaches about 10 years old, it is silly to place much value on its waterproofness, either, a few exceptions (like Vostok Amphibias and other Russian made watches using that general design principle) not withstanding.

I don't like cheap feeling things, such as Casio's G-shock (which if you don't mind the plasticky nature of 99% of G-shocks sold is a truly excellent watch for beater use in every other way... and that 1% that don't feel cheap don't feel cheap because they are absolutely not cheap- Casio makes a number of very high end watches that mostly aren't sold outside of Japan to any significant extent). Tissot is a pretty decent brand, even since it became part of Société de Microélectronique et d'Horlogerie (SMH, now Swatch group) in 1983; it really is a brand that dates back to 1853 in La Locle, Switzerland, and it merged with Omega and Lemania during the great depression.

I own a number of them, over a wide swath of time, from the 1890s through to the late 1960s. I also bought one 25 years ago in St. Thomas, first "nice" new watch I ever bought myself. Regret selling that one. I had seen the digital and thought it cool, but I wasn't going to spend $450 on one, even though I don't think that is an unfair price for what it is. But $150? The PRX is a well finished, well made entry-level luxury wrist watch. I haven't handled the digital, but I did play with the automatic version. The difference between the quartz analogue and the digital is simply the time keeping module; the automatic is very similar but uses a thicker case because, obviously, the automatic movement is quite a bit thicker.

But the auto doesn't interest me; I don't have a watch with the Powermatic 80, but I own a number of watches with derivatives of the Eternamatic movement it was derived from. But a Swiss digital of this type? That's interesting.

 

[autostaretx]

I got similar stuff, like back when I bought my Metris, I got endless Youtube ads for the Mercedes Metris. I dun get it.

Simple ... they KNOW you're going to want/need a "parts car"
(or one to drive while the other's in the shop)

--dick

 

[autostaretx]

(SMH, now Swatch group) in 1983;

It was Swatch displays at J.C.Penny that made me fully realize that watches could be viewed/used as changeable accessory items (much like today's scarf or this evening's shoes) . But that's not how i live.

But that doesn't preclude me from making it a point to visit a few camera and watch shops whenever i'm passing through some place like Hong Kong. In China i dropped in at cellphone stores. I may not *buy* anything during those drop-ins, but i got to see what's going to be up-and-coming across the next few seasons. (i was semi-seriously looking for a cellphone to buy, but held off for a collection of reasons)

--dick

 

[Green Maned Lion]

It was Swatch displays at J.C.Penny that made me fully realize that watches could be viewed/used as changeable accessory items (much like today's scarf or this evening's shoes) . But that's not how i live.

But that doesn't preclude me from making it a point to visit a few camera and watch shops whenever i'm passing through some place like Hong Kong. In China i dropped in at cellphone stores. I may not *buy* anything during those drop-ins, but i got to see what's going to be up-and-coming across the next few seasons. (i was semi-seriously looking for a cellphone to buy, but held off for a collection of reasons)

--dick

It’s not a fashion thing for me, generally. It’s mechanical fascination. There were so many wildly different solutions to how to keep time, from how they got power, to how they regulate it. Just as an example, consider two from technical powerhouse Longines in the 1960s.

The first was the Calibre 50L, which won more observatory time keeping competitions than any other watch- ever. It was a simple movememt, a slow 18.8kvph beat (5 ticks per second, 2.5hz), and managed it from being a large diameter movement with a balance wheel stretching from the edge of the movement to practically the centrewheel, lots of weight and distance.

Not long thereafter, they introduced the ultramatic. It took the exact opposite approach. The automatic winding weight effectively limited available movement diameter, so they use a much smaller balance wheel. But they run it at double the speed- 36,600vph, 5 hz, 10 ticks per second. This uses a gyroscopic effect to attempt to achieve the same stability.

Whereas Omega, their biggest rival, simply offered the 5/600 series which ran at 2.5hz, but achieved their stability through careful adjustment (to a level corresponding to the watches place in the lineup) and their smooth sided balance, an industry first. Any of these were made so well, almost all production that wasn’t catastrophically destroyed are still serviceable!

 

[autostaretx]

Every so often (once per two years?) some ultra high-end magazine will send an issue to us.
The watch ads are always fascinating.

On-line, an example is this Rolex Oyster sequence...
(which admittedly does not show *any* interior working parts (hence useless))

--dick

 

[3Play]

I was looking for a watch to wear into the shower or to wear when doing work around magnets, stuff like that. I found out there was a deal on a model of watch made by Swatch group member Tissot. They have a model called the PRX, which became inordinately popular, resulting in a million variations on the theme of the design. They jumped the shark in a lot of people's minds by introducing the PRX Digital, this sucker:

Tissot Prx Quartz Digital Gold Dial Unisex Watch T1374633302000

Shop for Prx Quartz Digital Gold Dial Unisex Watch by Tissot at JOMASHOP.

www.jomashop.com

Yes, its gold-tone plated; the cost to me was $150 shipped. I think its a rather good deal for a watch of pretty good finish made partly in Switzerland. I had never shopped on this particular website, but it is of good repute. Not really looking to discuss my taste in beater watches, but rather the following phenomon:

I got an advertising email from them this morning, from which I promptly unsubscribed; I bought via ApplePay and so that is how they got my data: from my purchase of this very watch. I am not likely to buy something from them again for a very long time, because new watches are not something I typically buy. But here is what they suggested I might be interested in:

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Me be interested in it? No shit, I just bought one... from you! Why do you think I would want to buy another one just like it?

Interesting look, it is an example of perceptions.
It reminds me of the first generation LCD watches that were super cheap crap, but it invokes a different memory for you and you like it!
No harm no foul.....
Isn't a 60's Bulova relatively bullet proof?

I have both of these first version "Memosail" yacht racing watches in a box somewhere...
They never kept great time, but they had the entire race starting sequence in the color coded inner ring and were great for sailing....

 

[Lagom]

I stopped wearing a watch for two reasons.
1. Working around high voltage and high current, wearing anything metal is asking for a serious injury at the minimum.

Me, too. Also:
2. I started reacting to metal, itchy and red underneath. My dad gave me his watch that had a gold case, but I never picked a new band for it, and just got out of the habit of wearing one.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

Isn't a 60's Bulova relatively bullet proof?

60s? Depends on the series. Accutrons are far from bulletproof. They were fantastic pre-quartz battery watches, but working on them is a forgotten skill, and they do break. The others could be good, it was quite a gamut of quality. A decade earlier, Bulovas were fantastic. A decade later, the company was all but dead in everything but name.

I have both of these first version "Memosail" yacht racing watches in a box somewhere...
They never kept great time, but they had the entire race starting sequence in the color coded inner ring and were great for sailing....View attachment 412859View attachment 412860

Magnum PI fetish? It’s a modified Valjoux 7730 series, good movement, simple and rugged. The Soviets copied it and improved it (sturdier, bigger faster balance) into the Poljot 3133 series, on the back of which I made my first pile. Those were great watches, all the Poljots were good, but what people really wanted were the cheap chronographs.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

Me, too. Also:
2. I started reacting to metal, itchy and red underneath. My dad gave me his watch that had a gold case, but I never picked a new band for it, and just got out of the habit of wearing one.

Stainless watch? Stainless back means the rest of the watch isn’t. Usually brass.

 

[coastie44]

Not that it means I know anything, but my son is a Rolex watch salesman. They have sent him to Switzerland to be factory trained (in what I don’t know; I think just general knowledge of their lineups).

The store and he also sells Patek Philippe watches if that means anything to the aficionados.

The stories I get are mainly which sports or other celebrity was in trying to get on their lists to buy a watch. It’s an interesting dynamic. They have watches on display, but other than the used ones, you cannot buy a watch unless you are on a list. And getting on the list is the hard part.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

Not that it means I know anything, but my son is a Rolex watch salesman. They have sent him to Switzerland to be factory trained (in what I don’t know; I think just general knowledge of their lineups).

The store and he also sells Patek Philippe watches if that means anything to the aficionados.

The stories I get are mainly which sports or other celebrity was in trying to get on their lists to buy a watch. It’s an interesting dynamic. They have watches on display, but other than the used ones, you cannot buy a watch unless you are on a list. And getting on the list is the hard part.

Generally speaking, I don't like new watches. I prefer old ones; the only reason I buy a new one, as in this case, is as a beater... that needs to be water proof. I used to use Vostok Amphibias for this general job, but they have gotten almost as expensive as this thing. Also I think I have 10 of them.