AI Implications...

MASTER THIRD EYE

Endeavor To Help Others
Well, technically, we don't have any machines. We no longer capable of building any machines. Even cars. We cannot build cars, capable of driving a few miles away from dealer lots any longer. We cannot build houses, standing on their own in a wind. We cannot build computers, because we cannot build working chips. We forgot how to build ICE cars and stopped building EVs. We cannot build any reliable payment system and businesses now offer discounts for using cash.
Wow, we have become a Tofu nation.
 

MASTER THIRD EYE

Endeavor To Help Others
I've been interested in and followed robotics since the 1980s, I've done some graduate work in robotics, and I currently work with a non-profit that encourages K-12 STEM education based on robotics. Not quite Luddite material. But I follow events and have my own opinions about things.
You are way too smart be here.
 

johnshmit

Well-known member
Deepseek is an answer. Let's make doing business in America impossible and motivate everyone to do it somewhere else. The data AI uses is open source and covered by MIT license. AI models are also open source (most of them) The price is for running them on rented powerful equipment. Web Search MCPs search open, free, publicly available data. I run most of my models locally on my own machine and that ME dude are getting nothing and a donut hole on a top of it. Communists can dream all they want, it doesn't work.

I do run open source Deepseek on my machine. The price is zero, Anyone dreaming about getting a peace of my hard work, make a line.
 

Lagom

Panic in Detroit
AI for me but not for thee:

"We will look back with incredulity on this period when such a dangerous technology was made available at subsidized prices to an unsuspecting public. The models have their hugely powerful uses, but they are not a consumer product. They should never have been presented to the public as chatbots with subscriptions absurdly low in relation to the computational power that was being made available."


The author suggests that Congress is capable of fairly and effectively regulating AI, and that Xi could be trusted to honor international agreements to limit the use of AI. Talk about hallucinations!
 

elemental

Wherever you go, there you are.
Robotics. Tool or replacement?
Robotics - for jobs that fit one or more of the 4 Ds: Dirty, Dull, Dangerous, and/or Delicate (think Da Vinci surgical robot).

Modern robotics might be said to have started in 1955 when the Denavit-Hartenburg convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denavit–Hartenberg_parameters) for specifying the metrics of kinematic chains (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinematic_chain) was developed. Aside from all of the computational elements, the study of the mechanical aspects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_kinematics) would probably be found to be interesting by many Sprinter forum participants. There is some hairy math involved at some points, but the basic concepts are understandable without having to get into all of the math.

Factory automation was a beginning for robotics. The idea of a robot as a small(er) independent platform that acts in the real world like a person might can conceptually be traced back to Rossum's Universal Robots (1920 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R.). Not all robots are like that, however. A large Unimate arm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimate) is a "robot", as is a Tesla in self-drive mode, or one of the driverless taxies that are becoming common in some places. Also the various space probes that have been launched to explore the sun and planets of our solar system, and independent (non-tethered) underwater exploration vehicles.

I see robots/robotics as tools, sometimes intelligent tools (many robots do not have to have much in the way of intelligence as opposed to simple planning, sensing, acting, and reacting). A car with simple "cruise control" has robotic behavior, for example. Science fiction takes the intelligent tool idea to an extreme, and postulates the tools having something more than mere intelligence so that they become independent conscious entities. That is not an end-goal that I harbor for robotics, but I can see how it *might* happen *if* some kind of accidental advancement brings it about at some very distant future date. The deliberate creation of conscious entities that are supposed to only follow the direction of humans would simply be slavery.
 

Mr. Logical

No longer new
AI continues to be of ZERO value. Googled for the price of a popular pizza shop lunch smorgasbord and the AI summary was wrong.
 

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