westerner70
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Maybe the new Nanoslide engine coating will save the day lol!! Give it the “ The little engine that could” ?. All that soot from diesel emissions would wash that nanoslide coating away. What a gimmick .
Yikes!How much power an engine makes is only a fraction of the total story. You can boost anything to make a ton of power. Diesel engines that are intended to spend a lot of time in high-load situations are huge compared to the power they make. It's that way the world over. I listed the torque to engine sizes below of common diesels and it's not hard to see how pushed the new engine is from MB. It's also interesting to see how de-tuned the Powerstroke is when put into a chassis that is likely always close to 100% load. Both the Cummins and Powerstroke engines were designed to run at high load from the start. The new Sprinter engine was pulled from the car world. Even the old OM654 was about mid-pack for how pushed the block was.
I have no doubt that many van owners who are under GVWR and not climbing big hills out west every day will get along great with the new engine. But, if you're a Class C at GVWR and climbing western hills, I struggle to see how this motor will last long. It would have been totally different if MB designed this new motor from the start to be used in commercial vehicles like the Cummins and Powerstroke engines. A car motor boosted to the max? I'm skeptical.
104 ft lbs/liter = Powerstroke 6.7 @ 700 ft lbs in an F750
108 ft lbs/liter = OM642 3.0 @325 ft lbs
113 ft lbs/liter = Volvo D13 (semi truck) 12.8 liters at 1,450 ft lbs
118 ft lbs/liter = VW 2.0 TDI in a Sportwagen @236 ft lbs
132 ft lbs/liter = OM654 2.0 @265 ft lbs
152 ft lbs/liter = OM642 3.0 @457 ft lbs (g-wagon)
156 ft lbs/liter = Powerstroke 6.7 @ 1,050 ft lbs in an F350
160 ft lbs/liter = Cummins 6.7 @ 1,075 ft lbs
166 ft lbs/liter = New 4-cyl @332 ft lbs
OK I went to Chevy’s website and they have a Silverado pickup with a 2.7 liter gas turbo 4 with a 7,000 lb GVWR that is claimed to tow 9,300 Lbs. So that’s way below a Sprinter’s available GVWR.My 2021 Tahoe 4x4 Duramax diesel has a 10 speed tranny, but Chevy wasn’t stupid to put a 4 banger in a 7000 lb SUV .
In fairness, that engine is in a light-duty pickup truck. And it was built for a truck rather than a repurposed car. Most light-duty pickups are only occasionally pulling at 9300 lbs while also fully loaded in the bed at 7000 lbs. That's likely a rare situation vs a Class C RV which is always at that weight.OK I went to Chevy’s website and they have a Silverado pickup with a 2.7 liter gas turbo 4 with a 7,000 lb GVWR that is claimed to tow 9,300 Lbs. So that’s way below a Sprinter’s available GVWR.
Comes with an 8 speed tranny and the engine makes 310 hp and 430 ft Lbs torque.
So they weren’t stupid enough to put it in a 7000 Lb SUV but were smart(?) enough to put it in a pickup.
Fixed it for ya!IMHO smaller higher stressed engines with more gears will be norm for many vehicles as long as the Liberal tree hugging diesel haters are still around..
Is the G-Wagen engine meaningfully different from the sprinter engine, like a different turbo or something? It would be nice to have that kind of torque if you could just use the ECU tuning from a G class......
108 ft lbs/liter = OM642 3.0 @325 ft lbs
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152 ft lbs/liter = OM642 3.0 @457 ft lbs (g-wagon)
Does the G Wagon engine being a 4K twin turbo gasoline powered V8 with 416hp and 450 ft lbs of torque count as meaningfully different?Is the G-Wagen engine meaningfully different from the sprinter engine, like a different turbo or something? It would be nice to have that kind of torque if you could just use the ECU tuning from a G class...
Does the G Wagon engine being a 4K twin turbo gasoline powered V8 with 416hp and 450 ft lbs of torque count as meaningfully different?
Thanks Ill check it out. ? would also be nice for my track cars too..There's a company called ExoShield that makes it for the windshield. They claim it makes it 6x more impact resistant but I personally have no experience with it.
No tiny 4 bangers ?.Flex of the day!
Ugh, duh. Mileage and these days with good fuel control, variable valve timing and other things you can have power of an engine twice its size. Th transmission also keeps the engine in its power range and feel less doggy with understated downshifts and regain of speed. It’s all complicated but in the name of progress I supposeOne should ask why manufacturers are going to smaller displacement engines with transmissions that are more complicated with more and more gears.
Is it for performance gains? Is it to improve comfort? Is it to reduce the cost to produce? Is it for mileage gains alone putting aside all the previously mentioned reasons?
I’d take those numbers in my 3.0, that would make a very nice tow vehicleOK I went to Chevy’s website and they have a Silverado pickup with a 2.7 liter gas turbo 4 with a 7,000 lb GVWR that is claimed to tow 9,300 Lbs. So that’s way below a Sprinter’s available GVWR.
Comes with an 8 speed tranny and the engine makes 310 hp and 430 ft Lbs torque.
So they weren’t stupid enough to put it in a 7000 Lb SUV but were smart(?) enough to put it in a pickup.
I’m pretty sure the turbo is larger. Many on here have seen the limits of the sprinter turbo with Rentech tuners eventually falling flat on powerIs the G-Wagen engine meaningfully different from the sprinter engine, like a different turbo or something? It would be nice to have that kind of torque if you could just use the ECU tuning from a G class...
The typical G seen in N ‘merica is a 4L V8 GASOLINE engine. And there’s a gasoline 6L V12 version w 600+hp.I’m pretty sure the turbo is larger. Many on here have seen the limits of the sprinter turbo with Rentech tuners eventually falling flat on power