Unhappy camper

onemanvan

Active member
There are rules for camping on public lands, some of them need to be revised, all of them need to be enforced. Part of the problem is the Department of the Interior ( NPS/BLM) and the Department of the Agriculture ( USFS ) have relinquished management of many campgrounds to 'For Profit Corporations' who lack the authority to enforce the rules.

Both agencies need to recognize there's a problem and take corrective action. Anyone who has camped in a public campground in recent years is familiar with the problems. Screaming kids, barking dogs, generators, boomboxes. It's no longer an escape to the peace and quiet of nature. It's more like a cross between a children's playground, dog kennel, tailgate party & construction site! The only people who are enjoying themselves are the ones who are making everyone around them miserable!

Simply posting the rules at the campground entrance is not enough - the rules need to be enforced.

Why is this important?
“One bad apple can spoil the bunch." That popular phrase is used to refer to a situation in which one person's negative demeanor or bad behavior can affect a whole group of people, influencing them to have a similar negative attitude or to engage in the same bad behavior.

No doubt the influx of inexperienced first time campers as a consequence of the pandemic has exacerbated the problems - but it's been growing steadily worse for many years now.

Whether it's the generator junkies, parents with unruly misbehaved children, dog owners who allow their dogs to bark incessantly and 'do their business' wherever the dog desires or adults who believe it's a great place to have a tailgate party - the result is the same - the only people having fun are the ones who are ruining the experience for everyone around them!

If you're one of the millions of unhappy campers then you might want to consider signing this petition to the agencies responsible for enforcing the rules. Simply posting the rules at the campground entrance is not enough - they need to start enforcing the rules!

How it will be delivered
Email to:
Tom.Vilsack@osec.usda.gov
randy.moore@usda.gov
acoleman@fs.fed.us
Laurel.Mcclean@usda.gov
wlow@fs.fed.us
katherine.e.armstrong@usda.gov
https://ask.usda.gov/s/contactsupport
Deb_Halland@ios.doi.gov
Deb.Halland@ios.doi.gov
exsec@ios.doi.gov
feedback@ios.doi.gov
doiexecsec@ios.doi.gov

Will you sign my petition and help me reach my goal? Click here to add your name:

https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/unhappy-campers?share=201076c1-4d85-43fb-8a81-8b200e523997&source=c.fwd&utm_source=c.fwd

Thanks!
John
 

Pnwsquid

Active member
Have you noticed how many of the new "reservations" are no shows? The last 2 years have been really hard on campgrounds.
 

Mike DZ

2016 View 24V (2015 3500)
There are rules for camping on public lands, some of them need to be revised, all of them need to be enforced. Part of the problem is the Department of the Interior ( NPS/BLM) and the Department of the Agriculture ( USFS ) have relinquished management of many campgrounds to 'For Profit Corporations' who lack the authority to enforce the rules.

Both agencies need to recognize there's a problem and take corrective action. Anyone who has camped in a public campground in recent years is familiar with the problems. Screaming kids, barking dogs, generators, boomboxes. It's no longer an escape to the peace and quiet of nature. It's more like a cross between a children's playground, dog kennel, tailgate party & construction site! The only people who are enjoying themselves are the ones who are making everyone around them miserable!

Simply posting the rules at the campground entrance is not enough - the rules need to be enforced.

Why is this important?
“One bad apple can spoil the bunch." That popular phrase is used to refer to a situation in which one person's negative demeanor or bad behavior can affect a whole group of people, influencing them to have a similar negative attitude or to engage in the same bad behavior.

No doubt the influx of inexperienced first time campers as a consequence of the pandemic has exacerbated the problems - but it's been growing steadily worse for many years now.

Whether it's the generator junkies, parents with unruly misbehaved children, dog owners who allow their dogs to bark incessantly and 'do their business' wherever the dog desires or adults who believe it's a great place to have a tailgate party - the result is the same - the only people having fun are the ones who are ruining the experience for everyone around them!

If you're one of the millions of unhappy campers then you might want to consider signing this petition to the agencies responsible for enforcing the rules. Simply posting the rules at the campground entrance is not enough - they need to start enforcing the rules!

How it will be delivered
Email to:
Tom.Vilsack@osec.usda.gov
randy.moore@usda.gov
acoleman@fs.fed.us
Laurel.Mcclean@usda.gov
wlow@fs.fed.us
katherine.e.armstrong@usda.gov
https://ask.usda.gov/s/contactsupport
Deb_Halland@ios.doi.gov
Deb.Halland@ios.doi.gov
exsec@ios.doi.gov
feedback@ios.doi.gov
doiexecsec@ios.doi.gov

Will you sign my petition and help me reach my goal? Click here to add your name:

https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/unhappy-campers?share=201076c1-4d85-43fb-8a81-8b200e523997&source=c.fwd&utm_source=c.fwd

Thanks!
John
Happy to sign. Not confident it will make a difference, but better to light one candle than curse the darkness.
 

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