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Old 12-16-2019, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default California (C.A.R.B.) hold on 2020 vans?

Has anyone heard anything about 2020 models being blocked by California Air Resources Board?

My dealer says all van imports are stopped until as soon as April due to some problem with C.A.R.B. and engine emissions.
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:29 PM   #2
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More vans for the rest of the country. California is insane.
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:41 PM   #3
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More vans for the rest of the country. California is insane.
Sadly, you are correct sir.
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:49 PM   #4
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Has anyone heard anything about 2020 models being blocked by California Air Resources Board?

My dealer says all van imports are stopped until as soon as April due to some problem with C.A.R.B. and engine emissions.
So you are saying California can get vans, but the rest of the USA can?
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:39 PM   #5
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Just diesel or both?
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:36 AM   #6
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This thread in the LTV Unity sub-forum confirms there are delays, but gives no specific reason. Post #4 in this thread has a letter from LTV addressing the delays in 2020 Sprinter deliveries.

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=81738
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https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/cert.php

Here is the literature related to this. Happy reading
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Old 12-17-2019, 03:11 AM   #8
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Here is the literature related to this. Happy reading
More like unhappy reading. I looked at the CARB Executive Orders (EO) approving diesel engines for 2020 model year at this link. . .

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2020/2020.php

The obvious missing EO is for Daimler diesels. As of 12/16/2019 all nine EOs listed cover diesels for Fiat-Chrysler, Ford, GM and Land Rover. The typical diesel applications in USA, except nothing for Daimler Sprinters. Remember Sprinters are the only diesels sold in USA by Daimler.

The 2.0L gasoline engine for the Metris vans is approved in this EO. But nothing for the Sprinter.

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._2d0_u3-70.pdf

This is not a good sign for 2020 Sprinters deliveries until they get their CARB EOs as many states follow the CARB emissions requirements.
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Old 12-17-2019, 03:58 AM   #9
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More like unhappy reading. I looked at the CARB Executive Orders (EO) approving diesel engines for 2020 model year at this link. . .

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2020/2020.php

The obvious missing EO is for Daimler diesels. As of 12/16/2019 all nine EOs listed cover diesels for Fiat-Chrysler, Ford, GM and Land Rover. The typical diesel applications in USA, except nothing for Daimler Sprinters. Remember Sprinters are the only diesels sold in USA by Daimler.

The 2.0L gasoline engine for the Metris vans is approved in this EO. But nothing for the Sprinter.

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._2d0_u3-70.pdf

This is not a good sign for 2020 Sprinters deliveries until they get their CARB EOs as many states follow the CARB emissions requirements.
California is trying to eliminate fossil fuel vehicles altogether.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:20 PM   #10
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CA is in a fight with the federal EPA about who is in charge of emissions.

They basically put several company executives in a room and said "sign this paper or we are going to ban you from selling in CA."

Some signed, some didn't.

This is all just an outgrowth of of Gov. Newsom wanting to be the President of the US. Nothing really to do with pollution at all.

Of course on top of it, is the general refusal of a few people in the CA government to accept that diesel fuel can be a very high efficiency fuel, because they think that the only vehicles required by the market are sub compact EVs.
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