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Old 08-31-2009, 05:49 PM   #1
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Default What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

The 2005 manual states:

DESCRIPTION - AXLE
NOTE: DaimlerChrysler recommends MoparT lubricant
or lubricant conforming to MS-8985.
REAR AXLE - Synthetic Gear & Axle Lubricant SAE 75W-140

Can anyone point me to a brand that conforms to this spec?

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Old 08-31-2009, 10:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

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The 2005 manual states:

DESCRIPTION - AXLE
NOTE: DaimlerChrysler recommends MoparT lubricant
or lubricant conforming to MS-8985.
REAR AXLE - Synthetic Gear & Axle Lubricant SAE 75W-140

Can anyone point me to a brand that conforms to this spec?

-thank you
-mtl
The 2005 owners manual states:
2005-RearAxleFluid.JPG

Notice the MB Sheet number? The MB sheets are maintained by Daimler on BeVo and list compliant products names and manufacturers.

So check BeVo: http://bevo.daimler.com/bevolistenma...&language_id=1

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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

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The 2005 owners manual states:
Attachment 16570

Notice the MB Sheet number? The MB sheets are maintained by Daimler on BeVo and list compliant products names and manufacturers.

So check BeVo: http://bevo.daimler.com/bevolistenma...&language_id=1

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Jon thank you, I was looking in the service manual not owner manual. One thing I dont get is that the service manual specifies 75W-140 and the two sheets 235.0 and 235.6 specify 85W-90. Which should I use? I dont want to screw this up as its a once in a very long time service...

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Old 08-31-2009, 10:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

hi mtl check out this link first http://www.sprinter-source.com/forum...read.php?t=783
you might find it useful.

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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

The dealerships use DealerCONNECT for service info. Since you and I don't have access to DealerCONNECT, some kind of fair trade legal stuff forces Chrysler to make the info available to non-dealership employees like me and you.

That source of info is called "TechauthorityOnline" at Techauthority.com. In theory, it's updated as often as DealerCONNECT, and way more often than your copy of the Service Manual.

Here's what Techauthority says about the 2005 Sprinter
AXLE FLUID
Use oils approved to MB 235.0 or 235.6, such as Shell Spirax MB90, Caltex Hypoid LD, or MOPARŪ part number 4874469, or equivalent. An API GL-5/MIL-2105-E SAE 90 Hypoid Gear Oil may be substituted. Reduced axle durability may result if an unapproved product is used.

Unfortunately, the MOPAR part number ( 4874469 ) seems to have been retired and the Techauthority info has not been updated.

Still, I think 85w-90 is really close to the "API GL-5/MIL-2105-E SAE 90 Hypoid Gear Oil (which) may be substituted."

If push came to shove, I'd trust Daimler over Chrylser and probably try to get some 235.6-compliant fluid from an MB dealership or on-line.

I'm going to give someone else - who actually owns at T1N and/or works on 'em - to chime in...



-Jon

PS: I was wrong. The MOPAR part number has not been retired.
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hi mtl check out this link first http://www.sprinter-source.com/forum...read.php?t=783
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I saw this and also saw that he got the wrong oil, which is what lead me to ask to be 100% sure im not putting the wrong thing in my diff.

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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

80w-90 but it depends on the weight type Syn. Mineral, or semi -syn, same as oils for your engine they vary it's a tricky one but between 80W 90
In my case I use the transmission oil, but it's manual not auto.
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Default Re: What is the appropriate rear differential fluid?

I believe Amsoil makes a 75-140 gear oil and thats what I put in my 2 sprinters last time I changed their diff fluids.
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Hi. Berry Sprinter still sells it at $25.50 (likely per quart):
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...?siteid=213693

Although it doesn't seem to be a fully synthetic product as the pour point is only -18C.
ie. Shell Spirax MB90 seems to be in min. 20L pails @ 1/3 the price per L in Europe.

http://alba.al/files/products/GPCDOC...irax_MB_90.pdf

What else have people used?

Altered Sprinter mentions MB A 001 989 26 03 10 can be used.
However, it's not in the Daimler Chrysler cross reference file nor is the Dodge p/n.

Thanks.

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Hi. Berry Sprinter still sells it at $25.50 (likely per quart):
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...?siteid=213693

Although it doesn't seem to be a fully synthetic product as the pour point is only -18C.
ie. Shell Spirax MB90 seems to be in min. 20L pails @ 1/3 the price per L in Europe.

http://alba.al/files/products/GPCDOC...irax_MB_90.pdf

What else have people used?

Altered Sprinter mentions MB A 001 989 26 03 10 can be used.
However, it's not in the Daimler Chrysler cross reference file nor is the Dodge p/n.

Thanks.
Sorry your 100% incorrect go directly to jail do not collect 200 dollars on the way through.
Lets gets the facts correct Dodge!! you have to be joking with a Mercedes Sprinter differential.
Hypoid oils as stated are Daimler Chrysler AG specifically for the Sprinters
Problem is finding it not because it's unavailable but because its for MB only.
MB Sheet 235.10
When oil shows a dark Grey change it, read what Max did not all oils operate in the same temperature zone.
Nor do we blow rear differentials.\

Look for Castrol or Mobil both meet MB 235.10
Take the time to read JD's post above 235.10 exceeds MB sheet 235.6
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