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Old 04-04-2018, 02:26 PM   #1
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had the two rear tires replaced at Costco yesterday and I could tell something was off right away. Tried playing with the tire pressure in all four tires but something is way off now. The steering feels like it 'floats' or unresponsive.

I checked the front shocks and sway bar but do not see any visual damage. It now feels like there is no sway bar. When going into a corner (Texas hill country) the front end dives into the corner instead of being tight like it was. I had installed SuperSpring helpers on each corner a year ago and it made the van much easier to drive through the hills.

Any clues what I should be looking for that may have caused the damage?
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:33 PM   #2
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Did you change tire brands?
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Old 04-04-2018, 03:37 PM   #3
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The only "damage" I can see here is not replacing all four tires at the same time... and presumably not rotating them on a regular basis (that would eliminate this notion of "rear tires" - they should have all been rear tires at one point or another). I would immediately drive down to Costco and replace the front tires as well and then take it to a real tire shop to have the wheels properly balanced and aligned. You're just going to be chasing your tail from here on out.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:52 PM   #4
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Another thing to look at would be load rating of what ever tires you bought. There are lots of veriables that all could play into the handling change.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:04 PM   #5
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It could be your ABS/ASR system kicking in, thinking you are skidding because front and rear wheel speeds are not matching.

Try swapping wheels front to rear, correcting pressures, then going for a drive. If this cures it then the answer will be as above, namely you have to replace all four tyres at the same time.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:10 PM   #6
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It could be your ABS/ASR system kicking in, thinking you are skidding because front and rear wheel speeds are not matching.

Try swapping wheels front to rear, correcting pressures, then going for a drive. If this cures it then the answer will be as above, namely you have to replace all four tyres at the same time.
You would know about this, ive had it kick in when I mistakenly put on a steering wheel upside down after fitting cruise control, and its not something you would miss. plus the ABS light would flash.

To the OP you realise there is no wheel alignment on the rear wheels.... only the fronts and even then it is limited to toe in toe out adjustment.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
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To the OP you realise there is no wheel alignment on the rear wheels.... only the fronts and even then it is limited to toe in toe out adjustment.
Just a note camber on the front is also adjustable...........but likely has nothing to do with the OP issues.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:27 PM   #8
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Why would replacing the rear tires affect the front steering and body roll? Changing tires has no effect on alignment, unless a poor alignment caused uneven tire wear and then replacing those worn tires with new tires caused the pre-existing alignment issues to become more obvious again.

... Was the van dropped off the lift during tire change?

Are the tires out of balance? (Vibrations?) If not, then going to a "real tire shop" (whatever this means - Costco sells tons of tires) will have no effect, unless they also do alignments and the alignment is indeed off.

My money is on incorrect load ratings, but even this wouldn't explain why the front handling changed.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:34 PM   #9
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Is it possible your rear axle has come loose at the spring U bolts and is floating freely on one or both sides?

Do you still have a 2008 NCV3 as I can't find mention of any other Sprinter?

Keith.

PS Or it may even be possible that '72chevy4x4' has already cured his problem as he hasn't posted since his OP.
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Default Re: alignment off after tire installation

I had the same thing happen to me. After searching online for an answer, some tires need a few hundreds of miles to break in.

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