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Old 04-29-2018, 10:42 PM   #1
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I'm selling my 2006 Mini Cooper S. One owner 55,000 miles, half of a typical 2006. $7,500 Small light car with ZIP. Here is a link to a person using a Mini as a toad for 5 years. Located in SW Washington. I tow 2,000 pounds way less aerodynamic and get 17 mpg in our Westy.

http://www.technomadia.com/2016/02/f...our-motorhome/

I hope this is Westy related enough for the group.
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:42 AM   #2
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Autocamp has a Westy and a Mini (as well as other vehicles). He's been modifying his Mini on his blog (but don't think he tows it, just races it).

http://eat-drink-men-women.blogspot.com/search?q=Mini
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:48 AM   #3
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Just ordered a Trailex 8045 open trailer to tow the Mini to distant tracks. The price jumped 20% because of the aluminum import tariff but managed to secure a close to pre-hike deal so I look at it as a hedge. It is the lightest trailer @900 lbs as Brunnhilde's max tow capacity is 5000 lb and 500 lb of tongue weight.

I investigated the 7-pin trailer connector and found out it has no wire on pin-7 for electric brake. Evidently European trailers tend to have self contained electric brake controller in the trailer. I don't want surge brake so have to find the contact pin insert for the Delphi 10-pin connector that is a part of the trailer connector.

Here is one old thread on this subject.

So here you have it, Mini would soon be towed.
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:10 PM   #4
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I forget now which gauge wire I used - either 10 or 12 - anyway - I stripped a half inch or so of insulation off the end and tinned it - then pushed it into the hole - seemed to make good electrical contact. Not the preferred method - but it works...

Thick blue wire in lower foreground of photo is brake control wire:
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:24 PM   #5
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I forget now which gauge wire I used - either 10 or 12 - anyway - I stripped a half inch or so of insulation off the end and tinned it - then pushed it into the hole - seemed to make good electrical contact. Not the preferred method - but it works...

Thick blue wire in lower foreground of photo is brake control wire:
I managed to figure out the connector is a Delphi Apex series which often used by German car companies. I am happy to send you a couple of these crimp pins that I bought - for free.

I plan to use 12 AWG which I think is plenty. Don't get me started with price gouging on blue wires on Amazon. I ordered red one for half the price.
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After some careful thinking of the ideal mounting location of the brake controller, I selected this. I will remove the ashtray assembly and fabricate an aluminum plate for this cavity. In addition to supporting the brake controller, there will be more surface for an electronic connection interface. The best part is it will be all reversible.

Mounting it near the steering wheel column like most people do is not good as the T1N have very little knee clearance.

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Old 07-22-2018, 06:02 AM   #7
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I made significant progress installing and wiring up the trailer electric brake controller and adding the MIA brake power wire to the 7-pin trailer connector.

I repurposed the ashtray dead space which made for the perfect location
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I’m trying to confirm that I’m ordering the right connector pin insert for the Delphi connector for the blue wire brake power signal. Can anyone confirm if this is the right one?

https://theelectricaldepot.com/weath...elphi-10762775
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Iím trying to confirm that Iím ordering the right connector pin insert for the Delphi connector for the blue wire brake power signal. Can anyone confirm if this is the right one?

https://theelectricaldepot.com/weath...elphi-10762775
I didn't want to serve all my hard work on a platter. I like that you spent some time doing the research. I hate to tell you how much time I spent on researching and only with a lot of reading between the lines I managed to find what I believe to be the right one. It is close but you have the gender wrong. You want the female pin.

This is what I bought.

Do note the wire gauge range.
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Please donít think for one moment that I donít appreciate all the hard work you put into your efforts, both on the vehicles and your blog. In case you havenít seen it, you might look at the forum link below:

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=69199

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