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Old 06-25-2018, 01:55 AM   #11
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One of the biggest reasons and the trend going forward is to attract a whole new buying public called Millenniums,

This potential customer base will be looking for something quite different than what we older baby boomer generation consider to be the latest and greatest !

I have seen reports that the big three will soon be contracting design and CKD/PKD construction out the selected sub contractors, Tesla comes to mind as being a strong contender & BWD of China who are forging ahead with electric cars.
With this will come autonomous operation, total connectivity, and nothing like we currently have will be acceptable to this new generation of car buyers if that is, they can get out of the financial burdens of student loans they are currently saddled with.

I expect to see/hear the expression "this is not your Granddad's old Mercedes or Porsche Cayenne " !
If I live long enough !
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Yes spell check!!!
I am in Florida using my son's lap top after working 36 hours non stop with my crew & then jumped on a plane to Tampa.
How many 70 year olds do that?
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Yes spell check!!!
I am in Florida using my son's lap top after working 36 hours non stop with my crew & then jumped on a plane to Tampa.
How many 70 year olds do that?
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I give up... how many?



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Old 06-25-2018, 03:01 AM   #14
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Well none that i know!!!
Most would say bloody vans can wait 'til I get back ,
i know that would be my brother's reaction in the UK,
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Yes spell check!!!
I am in Florida using my son's lap top after working 36 hours non stop with my crew & then jumped on a plane to Tampa.
How many 70 year olds do that?
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TRUMP!!!! MAGA!!!
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Tesla comes to mind as being a strong contender
Believe Tesla will have major difficulties because established car manufacturers soon will flood the market with electric cars. They have the manufacturing ability/capacity that Tesla does not have. Tesla would have been better off competing in a niche market.

Elon Musk is brilliant but has too many projects he is involved with. I am amazed at the number of stock buyers who have bought into his spiel.

Afraid that Tesla will end up just like Nicola Tesla. Brilliant at the beginning but penniless at the end.
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Believe Tesla will have major difficulties because established car manufacturers soon will flood the market with electric cars. They have the manufacturing ability/capacity that Tesla does not have. Tesla would have been better off competing in a niche market.

Elon Musk is brilliant but has too many projects he is involved with. I am amazed at the number of stock buyers who have bought into his spiel.

Afraid that Tesla will end up just like Nicola Tesla. Brilliant at the beginning but penniless at the end.

Musk should have marketed an all electric car for under $20,000 for the masses as opposed to coastal elites. Most people never utilize all the expensive and superfluous newfangled stuff on their cars.
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Musk should have marketed an all electric car for under $20,000 for the masses as opposed to coastal elites. Most people never utilize all the expensive and superfluous newfangled stuff on their cars.
Bob, it is very hard to bring a new product / company to market, but especially to economy buyers. The Chevy volt is an example of a car that is a really under rated vehicle in terms of capability and is at a reasonable price point. I admit that it lacks aesthetics.

In most cases, the more economically oriented auto market can be served with used vehicles vs targeting ultra low margins.

A case in point - the APUs that I build and sell are fairly low margin products, but I might as well price them at 2x because I rarely have economy oriented buyers purchase them.
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Musk should have marketed an all electric car for under $20,000 for the masses as opposed to coastal elites. Most people never utilize all the expensive and superfluous newfangled stuff on their cars.
Disagree. Tesla does not have the manufacturing experience that major car manufacturers have or the available factories or dealer support facilities.

I drove a Tesla Model S and was very impressed with how it drove and the style. So my comments have nothing to do with the car design.
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Bob, it is very hard to bring a new product / company to market, but especially to economy buyers. The Chevy volt is an example of a car that is a really under rated vehicle in terms of capability and is at a reasonable price point. I admit that it lacks aesthetics.

In most cases, the more economically oriented auto market can be served with used vehicles vs targeting ultra low margins.
I totally agree it would certainly be a challenge if not impossible to produce an all electric vehicle at the point I described but it certainly would have mass appeal like Ford and VW.
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