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Old 01-11-2011, 12:11 PM   #21
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At least you made a dime for all your hard work!!
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:54 PM   #22
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It's hard to determine what part of an upgrade actually makes a difference. I went about my insulation up grades the same as you are tackling. Part of my thinking was that the floor and roof had a higher propensity to act as drum skins. That may have just been due to their horizontal orientation.

After pulling the floor and insulation, and cleaning up the rust, I installed a full layer of sound deadening I purchased from RaamAudio, from the back of the seats to the rear doors, including wheel wells. I laid the OEM insulation back down as a buffer for the plywood and reinstalled the rivets. Actually, an easy job. There was so much going on at the time so I can't quantify the effect of that part of the job, but overall I dropped my sound levels nearly 15 db (a little over 20 when the rear doors were repaired).

I like the removal of the floor jack, but how are you planning on treating that part of the floor since the tool cover is probably also being removed?
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:14 PM   #23
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:54 PM   #24
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Part of my thinking was that the floor and roof had a higher propensity to act as drum skins.

Everything I read or observed told me that the floor was key. I'm going all out on the floor.


, but overall I dropped my sound levels nearly 15 db (a little over 20 when the rear doors were repaired).

That's excellent news. If I can drop the sound levels in half (what's that? 6db?) Then I'll be happy. Driving Frito with a floor-to-ceiling load of residential insulation was very instructional. I could dwell on the sweet music from the turbo.


I like the removal of the floor jack, but how are you planning on treating that part of the floor since the tool cover is probably also being removed?

TBD. In that location, first, the sound goo, then isolating closed-cell foam, then mass loaded vinyl sound barrier. The final layer where the jack was will probably be some kind of easily replaceable carpeting. I'm gonna have to protect that shock mount hardware from muddy feet. The OEM flooring goes back in the cab.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:23 PM   #25
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I would add insulation in the floor while you have it up. I failed to do that and regret it now!! Nice work Glasseye

I didn't know the jack was attached to the floor, thought it was in a recess down through the floor.

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...I like the removal of the floor jack, but how are you planning on treating that part of the floor since the tool cover is probably also being removed?

TBD. ....I'm gonna have to protect that shock mount hardware from muddy feet. The OEM flooring goes back in the cab.

Exactly what I was thinking but more from getting it flat and finding a replacement for the gray cover which will no longer be there. If I come up with something this weekend I'll shoot you my thoughts.

In the meantime, any chance at going off topic for a moment and posting a few picts of your driver side window? interior and exterior? I'm in a real quandary about this, and I need to make a decision before I decide on a repaint.
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I would add insulation in the floor while you have it up. I failed to do that and regret it now!! Nice work Glasseye

I didn't know the jack was attached to the floor, thought it was in a recess down through the floor.

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Dan, did you sound deaden? Re-install the factory felt? What are your regrets? Texas heat that bad?
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Dan, did you sound deaden? Re-install the factory felt? What are your regrets? Texas heat that bad?
I cleaned up the dirt and looked for rust when I had mine up. I felt the felt was ok for sound, but I added a bit of the roof flasing around the edges. The Texas heat isn't the problem its the cold. The floor is like ice when its 27 degree outside. It's hard to get any heat down to it from the roof mounted strip heater and with no carpet its tuff on bare feet!

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In the meantime, any chance at going off topic for a moment and posting a few picts of your driver side window? interior and exterior? I'm in a real quandary about this, and I need to make a decision before I decide on a repaint.
Will do.

I've owned but two cars in my 65 year life, all the rest of my vehicles have been vans. What I've learned is that a window in the slider is an absolute necessity and that windows in the rear doors are nice, but unnecessary. Neither of those need to be opening windows.

The window beside my bed is a total luxury. Sleeping with my face a few inches from the great outdoors is fabulous. Seeing what's immediately outside without being seen is very secure. Even in Walmart campsites.
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Got an interesting reply from the Creation Window folks.
These are NOT a do-it-yourself installation.
They do not come with instructions and are sold to businesses in the trade that are familiar with installation of this type product.
FW601 $411.55
FW605 $395.90
FW603L $271.50
FW603R $271.50
Prices do not include freight.
Lead time is 2-3 weeks to make since this model year body style is not a current production.
Thank you,
If that looks like the way to go, I'll check again with Andy.
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