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Old 02-20-2020, 04:03 AM   #81
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I will say that although living out here in the west and enjoying road trips makes the model X not the rig for me. Tesla is doing some things right and I firmly believe the autopilot can change the way we deal with traffic and commuting.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:10 PM   #82
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When you are at the super charging station the advertised rates are for only one car. Add 2 or 3 more Teslaís and you can see MPH charge rate drop a significant amount. I want to say the one at the Budweiser event center when it was full I was seeing 20% of the normal rate. It was an hour and half to get enough charge to get the X home. Longer if I was going over 80% because Tesla backs down the electricity as the battery is charged.

The DIA super charger off of pena wasnít as bad but it is only 4 cars vs the 8 at the Budweiser center.

I read somewhere an average American neighborhood with half the homes charging a Tesla during the summer would collapse the grid!!! Itís pretty vague on facts but something to think about for sure.
OK I agree with what you are referring to . That boiled down is utility company infrastructure, and investment .
The issue locally if we focus in on Denver is the local utility that has almost a monopoly and resistance up upgrade what it already has.
The spectre in all this is that if the population moves massively to electric car usage the system cannot cope.
The second is that if upgraded, and everyone uses electric cars in urban environments then car can potentially be used as a peak storage battery unit feeding the grid when you aren't using it.
That power source would be offset against your bill at peak rates credits. Then when the car is charged back at off peak rates there is a net gain to the car owner. Obviously the utility company stands make less of a profit, or not break even.
Its the ultimate corporate nightmare. It simply cannot fit into their current business & one built on tradition.
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If you haven't though that the utility company hasn't thought about all this then you would be wrong.
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Old 02-21-2020, 12:20 AM   #83
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but what do we do with the millions and millions more batteries that will need to be disposed of when no longer any good if electric vehicles took over ? Will they be recyclable or will there be tons more hazardous waste ?
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Old 02-21-2020, 12:51 AM   #84
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Well so far they get snapped up like hot cakes or they from part of a recycling program by the manufacturers.
The core credit on a Toyota Panasonic NimH traction battery is $1000.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:33 AM   #85
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For those of you interested in how some of these Hybrid electrical / mechanical systems work take a look at the Toyota Prius based transmissions found in Ford Fusion/ C Max , Lincoln MKZ, & Chrysler Pacifica.

We have a noisy C Max in the shop at the moment with bearing collapse because the fluid ran low & it overheated MG1 & MG2 stators.

As you can see, (I hope) Sprinter transmissions are old fashioned fruit "cake" to fix compared with the combination of Electric motors and mechanical gearing.
Enjoy the video if you are a resolved "resolver circuit minded" gear head like me !
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Old 02-22-2020, 04:39 PM   #86
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When it can haul and tow uphill 3000 lbs. the same distance or greater than my current ICE van in the same amount of time, Iíll gladly trade. I donít see that happening anytime soon.
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Well to respond to that in a light hearted manner I did see a newspaper cutting of about 1903 era and Vauxhaul 3hp two seater tourer.

The comment was that two dray Clydesdales and 3 ton of beer in barrels would easily out perform the Vauxhall on pulling loads up a grade.

Of course things move on and by 1914 the ICE truck would easily out perform the horse on the battlefield! By 1917 British Tommies were scrounging the Manhattan LIBERTY truck from the American forces to do heavy hauling in the Flanders mud.
Nicknamed the Bulldog Truck by British soldiers my grandfather stated it was an ugly bastard but it would do work that even heavy horses couldn't accomplish.
Its called progress, so just hold your horses for a while until a new electric Bulldog appears on the scene. (As it surely will)
The Manhattan by the way became the MACK truck in honor of British soldiers fond enthusiasm for the brand.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:23 AM   #88
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Tesla Cybertruck - 2021 - 400+ mile range, 11K lb towing.

If it is half the car my Model 3 Performance is, Ill be buying one and an off road trailer, selling the van, setting it on Autopilot and having a way more relaxing vacation.

Best car Ive ever owned. 38K miles, charge for free at work, tires and wiper fluid are the extent of maintenance costs. 0-60 in 3 seconds flat. Can cover 200 miles and charge from the resulting 15% state of charge back to 85% in the time it takes me to stretch, pee and grab a snack. Rinse and repeat. Takes me 18 minutes longer to drive the 340 miles to Mammoth Lakes than it does in my Van.



The Future has been here for a while. Its fabulous, its fast, and it is quiet. If I didnt have free charging at work, the 7.5kw solar system on my roof would power my house and 18,000 miles of driving my Tesla like a jackass a year.
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Nice pic (If I may ask, what rims are you using on your M3P? They look great - 18Ē?). Completely agree with you - I also have a Tesla Model 3 performance. Best car I have owned as well (had 3 and 5 series BMWís, several C class and E class Mercs). Our old IS 300 was a real gem with regards to reliability.
I have a deposit on the tri-motor Cyber Truck. 500 mile range will probably equal 350 real mile range on Highway (not EPA) which is plenty. Hard to go back to gas and canít see myself getting another ICE.
Come on Elon and Merc, build us a proper electric Sprinter with decent range and I would buy it. The all electric Semi truck would also make a great RV conversion!



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Although not as prestigious and performing as a Tesla, I enjoy my Nissan Leaf, had it 7-years, used, 23,000 mikes, paid cash. Only expense, R&R chassis battery, not to be confused with traction battery which, is getting tired but still gets us around. Maintenance; air tires, windshield fluid. Only used for local errands which, eliminates the necessity of warming-up an infernal ICE for a short trip to the store.

Researched traction battery R&R, doesn't seem insurmountable. The only road block is registering the damn battery with their stupid diagnostic equipment. I'll run it until it quits and certainly buy another.
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