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Old 08-04-2011, 04:06 PM   #11
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Maybe you can't see it, but if there is no EGR flow, then NOX will be higher. If no EGR, the exhaust will smell different; like getting a whiff of the fume from an open bottle of concentrated nitric acid.
There is EGR.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:50 PM   #12
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I had my CA emission test done last week and it differs somewhat from your description. Maybe it was the first Sprinter the tester had ever done, not sure. He didn't do a test for exhaust smoke, but did connect his test equipment to the OBDII port and let the engine idle for the test. He didn't appear to have a clue about how to proceed because he called me over to let him know about all of the emission equipment that's installed, so he could mark it as passed on his screen.

The entire test makes no sense except to generate income for the test facility and the state.

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I'll take a crack at answering your questions since I also live in California.

Presently, emissions testing for light duty diesels in California is pretty basic and is required at 2 year intervals. They do a visual check to identify any aftermarket parts that could affect emissions, they look to see if the emissions controls are intact, they look at the dash to see if the check engine light is on, and they do a smoke test by backing your van up against a white wall to see how much smoke is emitted when they snap the throttle open. They do not test/analyze tailpipe emissions, they do not hook up the Sprinter to a scanner, and they do not test individual emission control components.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:04 PM   #13
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Sounds like your tester is not familiar with the protocol as documented by the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR). Here is a link to their training curriculum http://bartraining.articulate-online...ge=player.html

If a log-in page appears after clicking the link, just insert any name and press enter. You can even take a quiz at the end and if you pass, you can print your own certificate of completion!


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I had my CA emission test done last week and it differs somewhat from your description. Maybe it was the first Sprinter the tester had ever done, not sure. He didn't do a test for exhaust smoke, but did connect his test equipment to the OBDII port and let the engine idle for the test. He didn't appear to have a clue about how to proceed because he called me over to let him know about all of the emission equipment that's installed, so he could mark it as passed on his screen.

The entire test makes no sense except to generate income for the test facility and the state.

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:19 PM   #14
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In Washington state, the "full sniff" versus SNAP test decision fir diesels is based upon GVW.
The flip-point is 8500 gross, so even my 118" Passenger (8550) gets the SNAP.
...but they do stick the probe up the pipe after the SNAP, and my report card listed a few numbers.
(they did not go through the full rev-and-hold for the sniffing portion)

They did *not* require OBD connection, but it was an option for detecting RPM
(they tried (and failed) to get it through the cigarette socket?? Maybe for gasoline, but that wouldn't work for diesel)

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:25 PM   #15
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Not surprising that different States have different requirements. In California, the mandated test equipment apparently does not work on late model OBD2 diesels. Personally, if I have to be subjected to testing, I like the way California does it. Makes it easy to comply

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In Washington state, the "full sniff" versus SNAP test decision fir diesels is based upon GVW.
The flip-point is 8500 gross, so even my 118" Passenger (8550) gets the SNAP.
...but they do stick the probe up the pipe after the SNAP, and my report card listed a few numbers.
(they did not go through the full rev-and-hold for the sniffing portion)

They did *not* require OBD connection, but it was an option for detecting RPM
(they tried (and failed) to get it through the cigarette socket?? Maybe for gasoline, but that wouldn't work for diesel)

--dick
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:33 PM   #16
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I'll take a crack at answering your questions since I also live in California.

The answer to your first question is yes. If you return to the original ECU settings, you must reinstall your DPF or your Sprinter will blow black smoke when it tries to regenerate the DPF. You will get numerous error codes as well. You can also get a CustomSpooling tune and keep the DPF intact. In fact CS has told me that he can produce a tune with more power if the DPF is intact.

Presently, emissions testing for light duty diesels in California is pretty basic and is required at 2 year intervals. They do a visual check to identify any aftermarket parts that could affect emissions, they look to see if the emissions controls are intact, they look at the dash to see if the check engine light is on, and they do a smoke test by backing your van up against a white wall to see how much smoke is emitted when they snap the throttle open. They do not test/analyze tailpipe emissions, they do not hook up the Sprinter to a scanner, and they do not test individual emission control components.

As for your last question, it depends on what type of service/warranty work is needed and the relationship you have with your dealer. For routine maintenance, it should not be an issue.


Cool. But when I decide to do a CS tuning with the DPF intact, there's still the possibility of it clogging up, correct? The ECM will probably tell me that anyway.

Actually, I'm looking for a tune to maximize fuel economy more than having additional power. The power in the van is just fine. What's the most mpg can I expect from this tune? Is 28-30 mpg possible? Would it be better with the DPF delete?
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:23 PM   #17
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Wildimaginations, I'm also in the bay area, if you want, we can meet somewhere in the Bay area and you can drive my Sprinter with the CS tune. Also, check your PMs as I have sent you some additional info in response to your questions.



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Cool. But when I decide to do a CS tuning with the DPF intact, there's still the possibility of it clogging up, correct? The ECM will probably tell me that anyway.

Actually, I'm looking for a tune to maximize fuel economy more than having additional power. The power in the van is just fine. What's the most mpg can I expect from this tune? Is 28-30 mpg possible? Would it be better with the DPF delete?
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If it causes trouble, delete it! If you want improved reliability, performance and economy, get a Customized Tune for your Sprinter! Contact peter@customspooling.com or go to www.customspooling.com and visit our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/customspoolingusa
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:31 PM   #18
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I am also in the Bay Area and would like to be included.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:54 PM   #19
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The entire test makes no sense except to generate income for the test facility and the state.

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DING DING DING!!!!

Right that is the means of the EPA and CARBs existence, $revenue$. Do you think they really care about the environment whole heartedly, or their pay checks?
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Old 08-06-2011, 06:04 PM   #20
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Dave, sent you a PM

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