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Old 11-09-2018, 12:40 AM   #11
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:04 PM   #12
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I’m really liking their roof rack.
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:22 PM   #13
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Can't deny the quality & functionality of the Aluminess bumper & box setup, just not a fan of how it looks on back of van. Wish it was more like their Transit model which looks considerably more stylish.
If by functional you mean way lower than stock? sure
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Nope I mean functionality. Having looked at them in person at the Expo last weekend they are well designed and well made. The option of storage box and One Up bike rack is what Iím interested in. And with the extra latch mechanism they incorporate on the door the box, swing out is rock solid.

While the Odin/Exped One is a better looking bumper IMO it doesnít much matter since they are slow to respond and have yet to even answer me on the weight limit of the swing arm or when they are even available for purchase.

Everybody has their own idea or needs behind their van build & Iím not pretending to build a rockcrawler type rig out of my 144in wheelbase breadbox, Iíve owned 3 jeeps for that purpose.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:31 PM   #15
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Nope I mean functionality. Having looked at them in person at the Expo last weekend they are well designed and well made. The option of storage box and One Up bike rack is what Iím interested in. And with the extra latch mechanism they incorporate on the door the box, swing out is rock solid.

While the Odin/Exped One is a better looking bumper IMO it doesnít much matter since they are slow to respond and have yet to even answer me on the weight limit of the swing arm or when they are even available for purchase.

Everybody has their own idea or needs behind their van build & Iím not pretending to build a rockcrawler type rig out of my 144in wheelbase breadbox, Iíve owned 3 jeeps for that purpose.
Youd be VERY surprised what you hit that on, or dig it on, etc. I hit it a number of times on a not all that hard trail in sedona


That being said. It is certainly a fantastically made product (when everything fits together right and all the parts are there) I had to modify the pin holes for the hold open areas because they were not drilled/lined up correctly
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Nope I mean functionality. Having looked at them in person at the Expo last weekend they are well designed and well made. The option of storage box and One Up bike rack is what I’m interested in. And with the extra latch mechanism they incorporate on the door the box, swing out is rock solid.

While the Odin/Exped One is a better looking bumper IMO it doesn’t much matter since they are slow to respond and have yet to even answer me on the weight limit of the swing arm or when they are even available for purchase.

Everybody has their own idea or needs behind their van build & I’m not pretending to build a rockcrawler type rig out of my 144in wheelbase breadbox, I’ve owned 3 jeeps for that purpose.
As an owner and user of the Aluminess rear bumper with a deluxe box I will say this:

It is NOT well designed. The latch mechanism doesnt support the weight of the box properly and the release lever has its pivot at the point of greatest weakness and they fail often. On top of that it is aluminum running on aluminum and it galls terribly. All these things are EASY fixes if they had a single engineer with any design intuition or understanding of basic engineering principals. Im a mechanical engineer, and a good one if im not being humble, so I feel qualified to weigh in on these points

It is not very functional. It is a pain in the ass to open and close the latch mechanism. The bumper hangs WAY too low on the sprinter. It is the quickest and easiest design to get a bumper on the back without any mind for integration.

I was initially happy with my aluminess kit, but after using it, I am not impressed with the quality, the design, the engineering or even the looks if I am being honest.

I would not do it again.

Grant...you are being too kind, its not a fantastically made product if you have those kind of problems, and YOU of all people know it.
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As an owner and user of the Aluminess rear bumper with a deluxe box I will say this:

It is NOT well designed. The latch mechanism doesnt support the weight of the box properly and the release lever has its pivot at the point of greatest weakness and they fail often. On top of that it is aluminum running on aluminum and it galls terribly. All these things are EASY fixes if they had a single engineer with any design intuition or understanding of basic engineering principals. Im a mechanical engineer, and a good one if im not being humble, so I feel qualified to weigh in on these points

It is not very functional. It is a pain in the ass to open and close the latch mechanism. The bumper hangs WAY too low on the sprinter. It is the quickest and easiest design to get a bumper on the back without any mind for integration.

I was initially happy with my aluminess kit, but after using it, I am not impressed with the quality, the design, the engineering or even the looks if I am being honest.

I would not do it again.

Grant...you are being too kind, its not a fantastically made product if you have those kind of problems, and YOU of all people know it.
i have to be objective here so people dont think im a biased asshole.
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Default Re: Expedition One/Odin Group Rear Bumper

I have to concur. Saw an aluminess rack with the entire floor bowed in the center. I feel like their designs haven't moved from 20 years ago. So many good companies coming out with new products that appear to be much higher quality.

That Odin stuff looks quite durable and well made. It's the first rack I've been excited about and the first bumper that is a replacement, but doesn't look like a massive chin sticking out. Same with Roam, RB's racks, and Tourig's proprietary rack.
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Backwoods had a rear bumper on their Sprinter at the EXPO. It looked good. It did not have swing arms or tire carrier on it, but they had those on a transit and they looked good. They said the arms and tire carrier are coming. evan also mentioned the possibility of slider/steps
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Honestly Grant's modular rack is the best I have seen for many reasons, though RB has some nice kit just VERY overpriced.

Grant-if you buy something and it sucks, and you say as much, it makes you an experienced critic. If you personally build something better you may be biased. If you are abrasive and condescending, only then are you an asshole. Truthfully, you can be a biased asshole and still be 100% right. For the record I would hazard you are neither biased nor an asshole ;)
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