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Old 10-13-2019, 01:59 AM   #81
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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

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I must admit i'm not a big fan of aluminum wire ... even if it is copper-clad.

The wire's spec of "16 Gauge CCA (not AWG)" makes me wonder if it's thicker than copper to yield a "gauge equivalent" rating. Typically there's a 20% reduction in current-carrying capacity for aluminum wire (and CCA is given the pure-aluminum ratings). They could just be trying to tell us not to treat it as "copper".

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Old 10-13-2019, 02:03 AM   #82
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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

I wanted to show the preheat switch diagram to help electronically challenged person like me^^
Also below are the parts I purchased from Amazon. Hope this helps!

DPDT Switch: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

4 Color Wire Pack: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Old 10-13-2019, 03:00 AM   #83
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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

I've added some info in red that may help.

EsparPreheatDPDT.jpg

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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

I'm very interested in making this modification, is the that some special switch you have to get or is it readily available?
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:14 PM   #85
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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

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I'm very interested in making this modification, is the that some special switch you have to get or is it readily available?
Nothing special. Pretty much any DPDT switch will do.

This a rocker type that will sorta match the dash layout.

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Rocker-.../dp/B0108I6BNS

It's a bit higher amperage than needed, but that won't hurt. I used a more traditional bat handle switch.

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You do not want momentary contact.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:44 PM   #86
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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

Actually, that's a DPDT-CO switch: double pole (i.e. two circuits), double throw (two "on" positions), center-off (when in the middle, neither circut is connected to anything)

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Default Re: REST/Booster Engine Pre-heat with DPDT Switch Modification

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Actually, that's a DPDT-CO switch: double pole (i.e. two circuits), double throw (two "on" positions), center-off (when in the middle, neither circut is connected to anything)

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I missed that. It will still work, but a simple On On switch would be better. Any suggestions?

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I missed that. It will still work, but a simple On On switch would be better. Any suggestions?

vic
I found this from blue sea, but can't seem to find anyone selling them online. The LED's won't work as previously pointed out in post #75.

Edit: Found the grey version for sale here different part number, LED maybe a different color blue vs. red but is irrelevant for this application. Could swap the face with a black one for a couple bucks.

The contura switches will fit with enlarging the sides of the oem switch holes, though if i did it again I would find another switch that fits the 18x36mm hole better. A fair amount of the plastic around the switch hole needs to be filed away.
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I'm looking to do this 30 minute engine preheat mod in the near future. I live in the Rockies and have seen below zero temps and been stranded with a no start situation a few too many times. I am also installing a block heater to cover my bases. My REST doesn't blow warm for more than a minute so I'm guessing I'll have to replace my pump first. I can use Bosch part # 0392020026 for the pump correct? Plug and play?

As for the switch I like the factory look. Can I use the factory Rear Blower Switch (5103853aa) or will that not work with this wiring setup?
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... Plug and play?

As for the switch I like the factory look. Can I use the factory Rear Blower Switch (5103853aa) or will that not work with this wiring setup?
Since nobody has answered...
I'm not inclined to look up part numbers. There are MB/Dodge crossover parts lists which may help you.

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