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Old 05-21-2017, 11:07 PM   #1
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Hey guys, so after a bunch of reading on leaking transmission cooler lines I decided to take the plunge and tackle the job myself. Put in the whole works, new cooler lines, trans oil pan, filter, 13 pin, and brand new radiator. I got all the parts from europarts SD.

Finally got it all together thursday night last week. Drove it to work the next day 20 mins away, noticed low coolant light. Saw it dripping near the lower hose and figured I didn't tighten the clamp enough. So added a few turns, refilled and drove home. I made a few short trips (engine never fully warmed to 180) to menards this weekend and didn't see a puddle form again under the van so I thought I was good. Then this afternoon I drove it over to a friend's and the light come on and I stop and see coolant pouring out near the lower hose again. This time I removed the turbo hose and took a closer look and it didn't seem like it was coming out at either seem of the hose. I refilled and drove home.

Got home and took all the hoses off and fully drained the thing. I had put a new hose on the bottom and it looked fine. Once I had moved the fan shroud cover I noticed the bottom edge of the aluminum seem looked not as straight as the rest. This is the part that folds over the rubber gasket to seal to the plastic half. I was shocked! So brand new radiator and it's hot a leak. I tried to very gently tap the tab back a bit. Then put the hoses back on. I began to poor distilled water back in the tank and it is still pouring out the bottom seam.

I need the van as we are leaving the Thursday before memorial day weekend for its maiden bike trip voyage to copper harbor michigan.

What do I do? Call europarts sd tomorrow morning and ask for warranty claim? Has anyone done that before? Bring it into a radiator repair shop? Have the dealer order a new radiator that's double the price? Also, I only have little less than a half of a liter of MB ATF134 left so if I do pull the radiator out, will I loose a lot of ATF, or negligible amount that can be topped off?

Has anyone experienced this before?
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:48 PM   #2
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Default Re: Help -Brand new Behr OEM radiator leaking at bottom seem

I'm disburbed to learn of your unfortunate plight. First thing in the morning, when open, call the parts house and advise them of them of your predicament. Proceed based on response. Meanwhile, resist any temptation to perform any jury-rigging repairs especially on any cooling system related component(s). I would attempt to negotiate for them to pay a portion of having the replacement radiator sent expedited delivery? You will have to replenish transmission fluid to specification. Good luck!

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Old 05-22-2017, 04:35 AM   #3
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Call 1 800 Radiator in the AM.
Ask for a Nissens unit if they have it.
Send the other back as damaged in freight for refund.
You will be on the road by Tues Morning.
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Thanks guys, I took both of your advice. I held off on my temptations to self fix and void warranty. Finally got a hold of europarts sd after a busy signal all day. The guy was very kind and are getting me a replacement on the way, so I will be doing a last minute swap in on Wednesday night, rain or shine.

I also found a local 1-800 radiator dealer that has an aftermarket Nissen version they stock, but I prefer to go with the OEM and not spent a crap ton more of money.

How many liters/qts jugs of ATF134 should I grab from the dealer? I think I may start with 2, hopefully, don't need anymore than than for the small amount that comes out of lines. I also am going with the MB ATF134 nothing else as that is what I filled it with, not sure about mixing with a shell version ATF134 is okay or not.
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The OEM Behr radiator is certainly the best quality and no fitment issues with missing or mislocated holes for exterior hardware.

It does have one flaw and that is it's factory packaging has made it quite vulnerable to shipping damage. It's very difficult to double box something that big. (Nissen radiators don't seem to have that issue).

I had several Behr radiators in a row arrive damaged from my jobber years ago and began sourcing the OEM Behr from the MBenz local dealer where I have my shop account.

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... I also am going with the MB ATF134 nothing else as that is what I filled it with, not sure about mixing with a shell version ATF134 is okay or not.
Rumors are that 55 gallon drums of Shell ATF have been seen at the MB factory. MB doesn't manufacture ATF or any other fluid. They provide specifications and job it out to lubricant manufacturers under the MB label.

The entire reason for the MB spec BeVo information to exist is to assure uniform products and repeatable results.

Any brand correct MB spec ATF for your vehicle is compatible with any other brand correct MB spec ATF fluid for your vehicle.

If Harley Davidson makes the fluid that meets the spec that may have even better product acceptance in the USA than a MB label does. Sorry. Unnecessary.

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