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Old 05-23-2019, 12:14 AM   #21
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Removing Fridge to Gain Access for Repairs (e.g., replacing components, testing for refrigerant leaks, etc.)

Issue: The black metal box housing the compressor and condenser does not give much room to work.

Also, the refrigerant lines run on the inside of the black metal box and outside corner of plastic fridge, and cannot be easily tested for leaks.

Solution: One solution is to remove the fridge, and then separate the plastic box from the black metal box. If you keep the two boxes close together, you may not have to remove the flat evaporator (held in place with plastic two piece push pin rivets)

The black metal box is open on the top and the front side (removable screwed front panel), so you'll have easier access to all the components. The screws holding the black metal box to the plastic fridge box nearest the closet are inaccessible without removing the fridge.

Confusing Instructions: The Repair Manual CD is a bit confusing on how to remove the fridge. It seems to suggest removing the cabinet and fridge together. In other instructions, it seems to suggest removing the plastic white box piece from the black metal box base by disconnecting the flat evaporator and temperature sensor from the plastic fridge portion. There is also a photograph of the rear of the cabinet and fridge together, with bolts holding the cabinet and fridge together on the closet wall side.

Alternative Removal Steps (Not tried yet):

Please correct any alternative facts.

1. Remove the cabinet.

There are lots of threads on how to do this in this subforum. The Repair Manual CD is helpful but also confusing.

There are screws in the middle partition of the cabinet which screw into the fridge (an angle piece).

2. Fridge Alone.

With the cabinet gone, you should see the fridge in three layers.

The first layer is the white plastic fridge box.

The second layer is the black metal box. The black metal box has flanges on its top and screws into the white plastic box. Half the screws are inaccessible (nearest the closet). Also, the refrigerant lines and temperature sensor wire go to both boxes.

The third layer is the plain metal base which is glued with thick white rubbery stuff to the floor. There are two (2) bolts which go through the top.of this base and into the bottom of the black metal box.

Note: You'll.remove the white laminate piece held by four screws onto the bottom of the black metal.box front panel. The white laminate piece covers the third layer.

3. Unbolt Two (2) Bolts and Fridge is Free.

If correct, the fridge is free after removing the two bolts. You will leave the third layer base in place, and have no reason to cut the white rubbery stuff.

Pick up fridge and move to workshop.

4. Separate the white plastic box from black metal box by unscrewing the screws in the black metal box flanges.

Take care with the refrigerant lines. The corner of the white plastic box has a piece of retaining plastic held in place with plastic two piece push pin rivets.

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Old 01-23-2020, 08:15 PM   #22
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As mentioned in prior posts, the Electrolux-Dometic experts on our RC1160 and other Westfalia fridges or coolboxes set up shop as cool-and-more.de.

I emailed them (in English) about the possibility of them providing (a).a full fridge, (b) just the mechanicals, precharged with refrigerant, but not the box and lid, and (c) parts precharged with quick connects (my Westy has no easy connection).

They can do any of the above (RC1162 replacement), all precharged mechanicals mounted on a wooden plate, etc. Specific price information would need to be from them.

Here is their response which they said I could share.

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Of course we can support spare parts like sensor, evaporator, compressor......

To ship a quick connect system is possible but difficult.

What`s possible, is to prepare the full retrofit kit with BD35F compressor and evaporator prefilled on a wooden plate.
This can be easily mounted inside the existing compartment.
Never done before but possible.


What we can offer from May 2020, is a complete like to like replacement box called RC1162 with integrated foamed evaporator and the new BD35 compressor kit. Same size like the RC1160.

The lid will definitely not produced anymore.



The easiest way in the us, you find a cooling expert that can braze the copper parts parts and charge the system with R134a.

We have all necessary parts on stock. Just have a look at

www.coolandshop.de

If there is a need to buy some parts, just send us a mail.

If you need a prepared kit, we can find a solution for safe shipping.

For that, the price needs to be calculated.

Feel free to share these informations with your Airstream folks.


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Old 01-23-2020, 11:55 PM   #23
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Something I recently discovered, is that the 60L designation refers to the "Gross Volume" (as listed on the data plate) of the fridge not the usable interior food storage capacity.

I wanted a little more capacity in my rebuild, so I ordered a National Luna 80 liter fridge and when it arrived I was shocked by how cavernous the interior was. This prompted me to very accurately measure the interior of the Westfalias fridge to calculate it's usable capacity, which is 44.1 liters.

I did the same for the National Luna and it was 79.3 liters. I am going to downsize to the NL 65 liter size. Lesson learned at the expense of paying for return shipping on a 90lb box.
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:37 PM   #24
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Wow, what a difference between net and gross!

Here are a few photos for the archives.

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Old 01-28-2020, 08:19 AM   #25
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Here's a picture of the Westfalia basket I got from Gunzl. It will be a little while before a test fit, but just measured the basket. Dimensions are closest to what is stated on Serial Kombi (27.5cm x 17.5cm x 22cm). In "American", it's just under 11 inches long edge to edge (handles).

Stores:
https://www.vwbusshop.de/epages/Guen...s/218001210055
https://www.serial-kombi.com/en-GB/t...stfalia-n39510

Reference:
https://forum.james-cook-freunde.de/...pic.php?t=3092

Part #/etc:
https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...45&postcount=3
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Old 02-01-2020, 03:47 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Camp View Post
Here's a picture of the Westfalia basket I got from Gunzl. It will be a little while before a test fit, but just measured the basket. Dimensions are closest to what is stated on Serial Kombi (27.5cm x 17.5cm x 22cm). In "American", it's just under 11 inches long edge to edge (handles).

Stores:
https://www.vwbusshop.de/epages/Guen...s/218001210055
https://www.serial-kombi.com/en-GB/t...stfalia-n39510

Reference:
https://forum.james-cook-freunde.de/...pic.php?t=3092

Part #/etc:
https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...45&postcount=3
Thanks for this information, I've really missed a basket in the fridge. I have now ordered the basket from www.vwbusshop.de.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:48 AM   #27
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Thanks for this information, I've really missed a basket in the fridge. I have now ordered the basket from www.vwbusshop.de.
Glad you were able to order one. I'm guessing they are no longer being produced (like most old Westfalia parts). I was able to find one additional store, but it's even more expensive at Ä44.95.

https://www.poptopshop.nl/a-25764389...4/#description

Finally was able to test fit the basket in the fridge as well. Picture attached below.

Result: Perfect Fit!
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Old 02-02-2020, 02:12 PM   #28
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Itís too bad that old-style 1 qt milk cartons are so hard to find in the US. In Europe, the 1-liter versions are the perfect height for this basket.
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Glad you were able to order one. I'm guessing they are no longer being produced (like most old Westfalia parts). I was able to find one additional store, but it's even more expensive at Ä44.95.

https://www.poptopshop.nl/a-25764389...4/#description

Finally was able to test fit the basket in the fridge as well. Picture attached below.

Result: Perfect Fit!
I received the basket today and put it in the fridge. It was also a perfect fit.
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