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Old 07-27-2019, 09:23 PM   #11
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Itís nice to be able to have one push and one pull and create a cross-breeze in the van.

And yes, lots of room still up there; I could probably fit another panel in front, and maybe a 50w beside the rear fan, although Iím thinking a custom road shower can go there...
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So two fans plus 200W of solar, on a 144"? I'd be interested in seeing how you fit panels on that.
one in the middle, one in front of the forward fan. same way every time
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I did the same on the last conversion. The Renogy slim panels, at a little over 19 inches with each, just fit between two MaxxAirs. I canít find a better picture, but this gives you an idea. Iím sure Grant has a better shot of one of his vans.


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that is a horrible location
the forward fan wlll kill efficiency depending on how the sun is

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So far, three months, no problems. Sheís back to 100% by 2pm even on an overcast day, usually by 11. 220ah Agm bank. Thatís running lights, 110v fridge, two or three cups of tea at night and a coffee or two in the morning from an electric kettle. I think by the time the sun is low enough to shadow the forward panel, itís not doing much anyway.


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So far, three months, no problems. Sheís back to 100% by 2pm even on an overcast day, usually by 11. 220ah Agm bank. Thatís running lights, 110v fridge, two or three cups of tea at night and a coffee or two in the morning from an electric kettle. I think by the time the sun is low enough to shadow the forward panel, itís not doing much anyway.


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you just have to make sure that you are parking hte correct way. If you dont, and hte vent is up, that forward panel will always have shadow if you arent.
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So far, three months, no problems. Sheís back to 100% by 2pm even on an overcast day, usually by 11. 220ah Agm bank. Thatís running lights, 110v fridge, two or three cups of tea at night and a coffee or two in the morning from an electric kettle. I think by the time the sun is low enough to shadow the forward panel, itís not doing much anyway.


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This is also one of Hein's suggested layouts for a 144 with dual vents. I think I like it better than having one forward of the front fan which looks from the picture to be more visible and less aerodynamic.
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Lol. why are you worried about more visible. None of these things are stealth.

Regardless of who suggests it or not, it hinders efficiency if you arent parked correctly.
I personally would rather have a setup you never have to worry about what direction you park
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you just have to make sure that you are parking hte correct way. If you dont, and hte vent is up, that forward panel will always have shadow if you arent.


Theoretically, yes. But my experience with her van, and my own, is that modern equipment is efficient enough to it have to make such worries be at the forefront. She lives in San Francisco, which as any resident can tell you, is not ideal summer weather. Mark Twain once said Ďthe coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco...Ē The Fog can turn day and tonight, or at least into swirling cold where you can barely see 50 feet in front of you at times. Not ideal sore conditions, but with average equipment, thereís just no problem in keeping up with her electrical demands. No fancy 12 or fridge, just a regular 120 V dorm fridge running off of a 2000 W inverter, which is also not ideal for that loads because of efficiency losses, but she has an electric kettle for tea and coffee. I think that at times on this forum people get lost in chasing efficiencies without looking at real life conditions for where they live. My experience with my own van is based on living In Northern California for nine months out of the year, and then traveling to Florida to visit my mom for a couple months. I often stay places for days at a time while traveling. I do pretty much all electric for my system; a 120 V dorm fridge, electric kettle for at least two large mugs of coffee per day, and a 2 quart instant pot. I have 300 W of solar on the roof, and 220 amp hours of lifeline AGMís. The only time Iíve run into real trouble was in Telluride, after a couple days of snow. I have a Dell laptop power supply that is hooked into my solar controller to trick it into thinking that there are 12a of solar coming from the panels anytime I am not in the sun, which mainly was in the carport of my motherís house. I just run an extension cord to that when Iím there.

Anyway, not to hijack the thread, but my experience is that for the modest equipment I have, Iím doing just fine without worrying about which way I park.

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Old 08-25-2019, 04:33 PM   #19
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alright alright alright
Ive been a little MIA because big things happened!

Uprooted and moved my house, and workshop to Jacksonville, Fl.
Why you ask?
I'm glad you cared!
I have been working with Freedom Conversions in jax for a bit helping them with some electrical and other situations, and the time came, where it made sense to team up and be awesome together.
So, made a decision to go big or go home (as i always do), doubled down, bought a house and we got a 4,000sqft workshop
The cool part, is it just lets us do more of what we already do! No big changes, just the ability to help more people get into vans, finish parts of their DIY builds they dont have the skill to do, mods for people with a badass van already (revel owners of course) and make cool products!
Untitled by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
Ev2 Moving to new workspace by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
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New Workspace by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
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EV2 in workspace by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
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Untitled by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
we always keep fridges and some other stock on hand as well!
Untitled by Grant Wilson, on Flickr

so then that brings us to the progress of EV2, which will be at Expo along with the Blue van
Its super close to being done. Just gotta line the flares, throw the back walls and bed in, and connect the solar to the panels. Super duper close!
Ev2 20019 4x4 144wb Interior by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
EV2 2019 4x4 144wb Power Area by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
Got tired of measuring for 110 plug and USB stuff, so made a template so its the same every time.

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Ev2 2019 4x4 144wb galley build by Grant Wilson, on Flickr
EV2 4x4 144 WB Galley Build by Grant Wilson, on FlickrUntitled by Grant Wilson, on Flickr

So super excited ot get it done and hit the trails. we will have it as a demo van for a few months at least, adventure wagon is behind on kits, so the 170 i ordered for the shop van isnt quite done yet.
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Congratulations Sir wishing you all the very best.


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