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Old 11-22-2019, 01:44 AM   #11
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Default Re: Headlights - low and high beam

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... Do daytime running lights equal low beam?
Yes. Low Beam aka Dipped headlamps are used by Mercedes for the T1N front DRL.

The low beam lamps are powered by relays under the driver seat for DRL mode. The headlamps can also be powered using the MFS stalk switch with or without the engine running.

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Old 11-22-2019, 05:08 AM   #12
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You'll notice a dimmer white bulb in the low front. This comes on with the parking light setting (or DRL).
The low beams are the upper and high beams are the inner.
There is also the fog lights that are optional. This is a brighter bulb that is also in the lower front zone.
DRL turns on the tail, side markers and low beam headlights while the engine is running. (Three different fuses (Left low, right low, markers) This does not allow you to turn on high beams or have dash lights (heater, switches, radio).
So driving along at night and you can't find the heater knobs and you have to pull back and hold to get high beams (Passing flash).
The first rotate position is parking lights. The second position is headlights. With this on, things work like normal.
The parking position also has the feature that you can turn the left or right signal to only turn on that side of the marker lights.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:27 PM   #13
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My stalk twists *back* one click to enable the parking lights, then pushing it up/dn (turn signals) switches them on, lighting up the right/left side lamps, powered without the key. A nice option when parked on the edge of a dark road, and better than disorienting 4-way flashers.

2004, no DRLs, no fog lamps...

Twisting forward one click gives me tail, front clearance, dash, and the little white front lamps.
I’ve made a habit of using this when driving - I’m not worried about being noticed ()!but DRLs have been required in Canada for 30+ years, so a dark nose can draw attention.

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Your down click and side select is a Mercedes, maybe German option. The running lights and small white front lamps are traditional parking lights.

My 2004 has the DRL option. The 2006 doesn't. I checked on DRL for Canada.
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Twisting forward one click gives me tail, front clearance, dash, and the little white front lamps.
I’ve made a habit of using this when driving - I’m not worried about being noticed ()!but DRLs have been required in Canada for 30+ years, so a dark nose can draw attention.

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DRL Headlights on during the daytime are not "Required" in Canada. If the DRL system are included in the vehicle lighting then a Canadian registered vehicle is required that they work.

I do turn on the 2006 headlights while driving in Canada. Walk like a duck. While I'm driving my 2006 NYS registered truck in Canada and I forget to turn on my headlights during daylight hours I am technically not violating any Canadian traffic laws. At least that was my interpretation after doing some research.

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Frito is a NAFTA T1N, sold in the USA and imported into Canada by me. DRLs were then mandatory and I had to prove they worked as part of his importation inspection.

I think that DRLs are mandatory for vehicles manufactured after a certain date when they were made so. Older vehicles are "grandfathered" and you still see them on the road occasionally.

They're obvious because they're much harder to see.
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I replaced my headlights this year with Freightliner headlights with the fog lights. I wired the fogs to be controlled by a dash switch and only be on with the DRLs I pulled the fuses for the DRL headlights. So I only have the marker lights while driving unless I flip the switch to also have fog lights. So my Fogs act like DRLs. My headlights come on when I turn them on.
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Fog, parking lights are always on.
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High, low and fog. Everything lit up.
And that is all the different settings.
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DRL are not "Required" in Canada. If the DRL are included in the vehicle lighting then a Canadian registered vehicle is required that they work.
That is incorrect. While you can operate a visiting vehicle in Canada without DRLs, our Motor Vehicle Act and Regulations have required that all vehicles sold in or imported into Canada shall be equipped with “automatic and non-switchable daytime running lights” since December 1, 1989 (vehicles registered prior to that date remain exempt; I don’t know where foreign classic cars stand but expect they’re still exempt too) My van escaped this scrutiny when it was imported by a previous owner, but it would fail a safety inspection (Alberta doesn’t require an inspection when transferring a registration) and I know that Canadian car dealerships still regularly get imported USA-market used vehicles coming in to have DRL systems installed (sometimes from scratch) so they can be imported and registered in Canada.

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See: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...on-sched4.html
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(25) Subsections (26) to (30) apply to passenger cars, multi-purpose passenger vehicles, trucks, buses and three-wheeled vehicles.

(26) Every vehicle shall be equipped with daytime running lamps

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That is incorrect. While you can operate a visiting vehicle in Canada without DRLs, our Motor Vehicle Act and Regulations have required that all vehicles sold in or imported into Canada shall be equipped with “automatic and non-switchable daytime running lights” since December 1, 1989 (vehicles registered prior to that date remain exempt; I don’t know where foreign classic cars stand but expect they’re still exempt too) ...
Not really incorrect. I didn't communicate well.

I corrected my statement.
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DRL Headlights on during the daytime are not "Required" in Canada. If the DRL system are included in the vehicle lighting then a Canadian registered vehicle is required that they work.
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To my knowledge it is not a law in Canada that you must operate your headlights during daylight hours. The law is that those vehicles which are required to have an automatic DRL system must keep them operable. That is why your newer vehicle cannot be registered in Canada until it has an operable automatic DRL system. Not that everyone is required by law to turn on their headlights during daylight hours.

See: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...on-sched4.html
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(25) Subsections (26) to (30) apply to passenger cars, multi-purpose passenger vehicles, trucks, buses and three-wheeled vehicles.

(26) Every vehicle shall be equipped with daytime running lamps
Your reference doesn't say that headlights must be on. It states that they "shall be equipped" with [automatic] daytime running lights. When equipped, they must be operable.

That is why I won't, or shouldn't, get pulled over or ticketed while driving in Canada if I forget to turn on my 2006 headlights during the day. (I do try to remember to turn them on.)

Maybe semantics, but the bottom line is that because my 2006 is not equipped with DRL, when in Canada I am ok if I forget to switch on my headlights. I suppose technically I could be ticketed if my 2004 DRL's fail to work.

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This basically agrees with my interpretation.

https://www.ahainsurance.ca/car-insu...unning-lights/
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Exactly.

You and your dark headlamps are welcome any time, Vic.

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Added: ...except in Nova Scotia.
Seems we all have to light up there.
https://novascotia.ca/tran/roadsafet...rification.pdf

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