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Old 07-19-2019, 10:30 PM   #11
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Not so quick there David. No corrections applicable here. You responded to the OP who clearly stated that he had a 2019 Unity with the V6 diesel engine. I do not believe that they are made without the DPF!

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Within the context of this thread is fine, but the statement was more general.

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Don't be fooled by Mobil 1 European Blend. Not recommended for MB Sprinters.
It wasn't a criticism, it was a small correction.

Carry on.

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Within the context of this thread is fine, but the statement was more general.



It wasn't a criticism, it was a small correction.

Carry on.

vic
So Vic, am I to understand from your reply, that Mobile 1 European "blend" IS recommended for some sprinters?

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Old 07-19-2019, 11:20 PM   #13
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Here is a list 229.52 of many of the Low SPAsh multigrade service engine oils that the OP can use.

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...229.52_en.html


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Not so quick there David. No corrections applicable here. You responded to the OP who clearly stated that he had a 2019 Unity with the V6 diesel engine. I do not believe that they are made without the DPF!

Bob
ps the OP can also use the 229.51 speck [it has 40w in it]
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...229.51_en.html

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So Vic, am I to understand from your reply, that Mobile 1 European "blend" IS recommended for some sprinters?

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The complete label is Mobil 1 European Car Formula 0w-40.
https://www.mobil.com/english-ca/pas...obil-1-fs-0w40

And "yes" it is approved for T1N 5 cylinder diesels. MB229.5 and MB229.3 specification.

It is perfectly fine oil. In the early days of NCV3 and DPF's the Operator Manual allowed 1 quart of MB229.5 for top off. The newer manuals have been more restrictive.

Not that anyone asked...
If I NEEDED top off oil for a MB diesel with DPF, assuming a lack of proper low ash oil, I would top off with Mobil 1 0w-40 or Shell Rotella Full synthetic 5w-40 (blue jug) without hesitation.

My definition of "NEEDED" is at or below the low range add mark on the dipstick. Until I saw the low level mark on the dipstick I wouldn't dump in anything but low ash oil. Below or at the add mark would trigger "any good turbo diesel oil is better than running too low" mode.

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Shell Rotella Full synthetic 5w-40 (blue jug) is low ash MB228.31 spec (1.0 or lower), but not "low enough" for the MB229.51/52 lower 0.8 specification. It is fine for top off in a pinch. FWIW.

For the most part diesel Sprinters don't use much oil between oil changes so the above isn't a big concern.

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Here is the 5w30 for those of you like me that reside in warmer climes.


https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MOR1...rdInput=124044


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My 2019 Unity MB is just about to turn 5000 miles and the graphic display and dipstick shows it down about half between the max and the fill line. I went to this thread to find what type of oil I needed to get. I was also concerned that almost a quart down at 5000 miles seemed high (this is my first diesel vehicle) so I looked in the Mercedes Sprinter manual and found this bit of info on page 331,

"Information on oil consumption -

Depending on the driving style, the vehicle consumes
a maximum of 1.1 US qt (1.0 liter) of
engine oil per 620 miles (1000 km).
In the following cases, oil consumption may also
exceed this limit:
* the vehicle is new.
* you use the vehicle mostly under arduous
conditions.
*you drive frequently at a high engine speed"

I suppose I should be very happy that I'm no where near burning that much oil, but since I've never read any thread or posts about this level of consumption, I was wandering if anyone can verify that this a real number or a possible misprint in the manual?
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that number is a "what we tear apart the engine for warranty purposes" number.

I would not be happy at such a level of oil use. (burning $30 per gallon engine oil instead of $3 per gallon diesel fuel) but as an aside, it is these high-consumption cases that drive the need for low ash oil with particulate filters.

You did not say that you have checked the oil level over time, and with the proper procedure per your owners manual. do not assume that the oil was filled to the "do not add" marking from the dealer.

I like to keep mine a half quart or so below that top line, to allow for expansion, and potential fuel dilution of the oil. too much oil is not good.
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My 2019 Unity MB is just about to turn 5000 miles and the graphic display and dipstick shows it down about half between the max and the fill line. I went to this thread to find what type of oil I needed to get. I was also concerned that almost a quart down at 5000 miles seemed high (this is my first diesel vehicle) so I looked in the Mercedes Sprinter manual and found this bit of info on page 331,

"Information on oil consumption -

Depending on the driving style, the vehicle consumes
a maximum of 1.1 US qt (1.0 liter) of
engine oil per 620 miles (1000 km).
In the following cases, oil consumption may also
exceed this limit:
* the vehicle is new.
* you use the vehicle mostly under arduous
conditions.
*you drive frequently at a high engine speed"

I suppose I should be very happy that I'm no where near burning that much oil, but since I've never read any thread or posts about this level of consumption, I was wandering if anyone can verify that this a real number or a possible misprint in the manual?

It is perfectly acceptable to operate vehicle for any length of time with oil level between hi and low marks.
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