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Old 07-23-2015, 03:35 AM   #11
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Looks very good Dave. You passed the learning curve so this time I am sure it is easier. On my build I did not use any Loctite and need to tighten some screws on my sofa bed, this time I will used it.

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Old 07-23-2015, 04:11 AM   #12
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Looks very good Dave. You passed the learning curve so this time I am sure it is easier. On my build I did not use any Loctite and need to tighten some screws on my sofa bed, this time I will used it.

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"this time" Are you building a second one? You need to build another one to justify the new large shop you are building.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:33 AM   #13
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"this time" Are you building a second one? You need to build another one to justify the new large shop you are building.
I used a wrong set of words, I am done. Large garage will be useful to finish still long tasks list on the Sprinter.

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Old 07-23-2015, 05:18 PM   #14
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Great job!!! Have you noticed how much your floor construction with the MLV has quieted the van? I used it also around the wheel wells sandwiched between foam.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:54 PM   #15
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Great job!!! Have you noticed how much your floor construction with the MLV has quieted the van? I used it also around the wheel wells sandwiched between foam.
The floor makes a major difference. Van was fairly quiet with its stock vinyl floor that has a fiber mat backing. After removal of the factory floor it was noisy. The new floor makes van quiet enough that I am not going to do any more additions strictly for noise suppression. Do not know what part of the noise reduction can be attributed to the MLV. My guess is it was probably not needed. Does make for a good vapor barrier. All the layers of the floor contribute to the noise reduction. Filled areas between the corrugations with 1/2" closed cell foam, then the layer of 1/8" MLV, next the 1/2" plywood. The 1 1/2" thick 80/20 framework bolts to the plywood. Between the 80/20 extrusions there is 1" of rigid insulation, a layer of 1/8" Masonite (soon to be replaced by 1/16" plastic) and finally the top floor layer that is 3/8" ribber gym mat. The areas under the cabinets (about 1/2 the floor) have 1 1/2" rigid insulation. Hard to determine how much the MLV contributes.

I will get a lot more noise suppression after I insulate the walls and roof. Will paint the walls and roof with hollow ceramic balls mixed into the paint. The ceiling will be filled with rigid insulation with the gaps filled with spray can foam. That will be covered with Reflectix. Then there will be an air gap between the bottom of the ribs and the top of the hollow polycarbonate ceiling. There will be 1/2" of Aerocel closed cell foam between the ceiling and the bottom of the ribs covering the whole van ceiling. Apparently Aerocel is also a noise suppressant as well as insulation. The walls will get two layers of 1" Aerocel covered by Reflectix with a 2" air gap to the polycarbonate wall covering. The exception to that is the two rear window indentations will only have 1/2" of Aerocel covered by Reflectix and indoor/outdoor carpet. Can not have thick insulation at each end of bed platform if I want a 74" long bed. Above cab headliner will have two layers of 1" Aerocel

Result should be quiet enough for a person with tinnitus.
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:05 PM   #16
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Update.

Completed most of the 80/20 framework. Built temporary 27" wide rear bed platform across back, two temporary seats on wheel well 80/20 and a temporary sink top. Needed for a 5 night stay in van that I just returned from.

Worked out very well. Nice to now have a 74" long bed instead of the 70" long bed that was in the Sprinter. Did discover one thing I did not plan on. There is a 2" x 27" x 5" deep hole at each end of the bed caused by the two 2 1/2" x 70" x 25" REI self inflating camp pads I use for a "mattress". My feet drop into the hole instead of sticking straight out. On head end I just stuff an extra pillow in the hole.

The location of the upper cabinet lower front 80/20 was correct. I can sit up in bed without hitting the upper cabinet. Roof height of tall roof Transit does allow deeper upper cabinets and allows fold down bed platforms to meet at van centerline on top of the table. The open shelf at bottom of the sink cabinet worked very well for the storage of the CampChef Ranger II two burner stove.

The foldable Xrooter bike fits between the back doors and the bed platform. Just rotate the handle bars 90 degrees and bungy cord bike to table leg. Now would not need an expensive foldable bike. Just need a bike that I could rotate the handle bar.
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:07 PM   #17
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Ugly wall supports for 3/8" upper cabinet floor are temporary. Will be replaced with 3/4" x 3" wood board that will also have the holes to support the ends of my curtain rods for the indoor tent experiment. Tent will be insulated with top just under the upper cabinets and sides down to the bed platform.

Had to raise the Ford electrical loom up higher on wall to get it inside the upper cabinet. Again used Panduit wireway to replace the stock Ford cover.

Bench picture shows the Broan 750 watt baseboard heater in the center opening.
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Old 08-18-2015, 04:45 PM   #18
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Attached is the list of 100 changes/improvements I will make on Transit build. Basic layout will remain the same since that worked well for my use. List might be helpful to others.
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:51 PM   #19
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Orton, glad to see your new Transit build in action. Show the Sprinter guys it can be done, and hopefully done on a more reliable vehicle. Must have been heartbreaking to have to let you last build go?
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:02 PM   #20
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What a rip off. There are only 98 not the advertised 100. Thanks Dave.
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