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Old 08-25-2017, 02:12 AM   #21
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Default Re: DEF Adblue Diesel Exhaust Fluid 10 Starts

That Xentry scan page looks fake as hell.

Here's what it should look like.


I wouldn't even trust that print out! But if I were to only go with that, I'd first replace the NOx1 and teach in the SCR cats, SCR temp sensor, DEF injection nozzle and set up the "Test of Exhaust Aftertreatment" (Xentry only) and send you out to drive for 30-45 minutes. (not 100 miles)

The test makes everything adapt quicker to get to the root cause. New codes after the test help pinpoint the real problem.

Just FYI, 4 of those codes are from having the airbox removed when scanning.


Please post the results form your new diagnosis!
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:23 AM   #22
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Dennis,
Can you elaborate on this? My clone Xentry stuff appears to be able to do everything except resetting a countdown (it CAN add 5 starts to it, though--I don't know how often). It certainly can do live monitoring of all sensors as far as I can see. All of the adaptations appear to be available as well. I have been following your advice about not messing with anything that I don't fully understand, so I don't know if the adaptations would actually work, but they sure look like they would. Am I in for a surprise if I ever attempt something deep?

One of the Techs on a different island has it. While it says it will do things, it actually can't once you delve into it. It crashes a lot when you try.

I do not think it will actually SCN code which is why it can only add the starts (generally once) since that doesn't require it.

I would be leary of it for anything other than reading codes and watching actual values.
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:32 AM   #23
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Default Re: DEF Adblue Diesel Exhaust Fluid 10 Starts

Yes actually we have formulated & developed by "doing" a whole test plan and driving procedure in our shop to eradicate that DEF light.
But you have to be able to SCN code the thing
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:13 AM   #24
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......... I've taken other measures to ensure it never happens again.




That sounds a bit like you took the horse behind the barn and put it down. You didn't get rid of the van did ya?
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One of the Techs on a different island has it. While it says it will do things, it actually can't once you delve into it. It crashes a lot when you try.

I do not think it will actually SCN code which is why it can only add the starts (generally once) since that doesn't require it.

I would be leary of it for anything other than reading codes and watching actual values.
Man, I brought one of those clone POS and gave it away. Ain't no way I am hooking it to my van.

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Old 08-25-2017, 01:23 PM   #26
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That sounds a bit like you took the horse behind the barn and put it down. You didn't get rid of the van did ya?
No. In fact it now runs like a race horse with more muscle and consumes less oats.
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No. In fact it now runs like a race horse with more muscle and consumes less oats.

Ah - I got it. The horse is CURED!
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Old 08-27-2017, 11:04 PM   #28
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I had the same problem twice. If you have a hard stop the fluid all goes forward in the tank and somehow out of the reservoir and shows the sensors not wetted. Bam there goes the 10 start countdown. I purchased an OBD2 module 2 clear and erase the DTC code just as if it had been done with SCN coding. Here is a link:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-car-a...%257Ciid%253A7

This will reset it until the next time you have a problem. Then use it again to reset, again and again. Tied to your vehicle VIN# No more going to the dealer.

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Old 08-27-2017, 11:08 PM   #29
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Default Re: DEF Adblue Diesel Exhaust Fluid 10 Starts

I had the same problem twice. If you have a hard stop the fluid all goes forward in the tank and somehow out of the reservoir and shows the sensors not wetted. Bam there goes the 10 start countdown. I purchased an OBD2 module 2 clear and erase the DTC code just as if it had been done with SCN coding. Here is a link:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-car-a...%257Ciid%253A7

This will reset it until the next time you have a problem. Then use it again to reset, again and again. Tied to your vehicle VIN# No more going to the dealer.
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Old 08-27-2017, 11:14 PM   #30
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Default Re: DEF Adblue Diesel Exhaust Fluid 10 Starts

I had the same problem twice. If you have a hard stop the fluid all goes forward in the tank and somehow out of the reservoir and shows the sensors not wetted. Bam there goes the 10 start countdown. I purchased an OBD2 module 2 clear and erase the DTC code just as if it had been done with SCN coding. Here is a link:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-car-a...%257Ciid%253A7

This will reset it until the next time you have a problem. Then use it again to reset, again and again. Tied to your vehicle VIN# No more going to the dealer.
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