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Old 10-26-2017, 05:34 PM   #1
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Default Front SwayBar Repair...

So, one of the links on the front swaybar is broken.

OK... so not a huge issue, except that I cannot find a matching part from Mercedes.

Does anyone know whether the swaybar is some aftermarket, third party part or is there something otherwise unique about the front swaybar that is installed on our vans?

Really, really frustrating. Should be a simple repair, but have gone through two rounds now with Mercedes parts and cannot find a matching piece.... ughhhh!!!!
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Old 10-26-2017, 07:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

1. Photographs?

If you can figure out how to post a photograph, please do (a couple would.be helpful, with direction).

For example, early Westies apparently had a standard REAR anti swaybar while most Westies had a heavier duty REAR anti swaybar. Some of the early Westies had an UpScale Auto heavy duty REAR anti sway bar installed.

Apparently, all Westies had a steel transverse spring in the FRONT while most Sprinters have a composite plastic transverse spring.

So, there may be differences in Westies.from the factory, between Westies and other Sprinters, between original Westies and aftermarket add-ons, etc.

Photographs will allow others to compare to what they have.

2. REAR Swaybar

Lots of discussion on our subforum re the proper replacement part for the bracket and bushing for the Heavy duty antisway bar on most Westies (the REAR heavy duty antisway bar is like the 3500 dual rear wheel bar but the bracket is like the 2500 single rear wheel so bushing has to be different).

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...highlight=Rear

3. Have not seen much discussion re a FRONT antisway bar on any forum.

Take a look at Europarts-SD.com below and their front stabilizer parts. Can also give Steve a call.

http://europarts-sd.com/mfg-subcat-i...D=107&scID=204

Notice that Europarts-SD.com has bushings for a 22mm and a heavy duty 25mm FRONT stabilizer bar--maybe related to a 2500 versus 3500 version.

Would be interesting to see if Westfalia also upgraded the front stabilizer like the rear stabilizer. If early Westies did not have a heqvy duty one and later Westies did, that'd be good info to know if wanted to improve handling in the wind.

4. Dodge Parts Diagram

https://www.dodgepartsonline.net/aut...omponents-scat


Please post whatever you find out. Thanks.

Last edited by OldWest; 10-26-2017 at 09:00 PM. Reason: Fix numbering, typos; add links.
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

OldWest, Here are some photo's.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:52 PM   #4
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

Maybe some more technically proficient Westy owners can chime in. Here's what I'm thinking:

1. Westy

Your photo (passenger side, front bumper view) looks similar to mine (different dirt, shadows, wear/tear?).

Could still be different thicknesses in swaybar?

The Westies did have a heavy duty suspension package, including different front transverse spring, heavy rear swaybar for most Westies, and ????

2. Europarts-SD.com and Dodge Diagrams of Front Swaybar

Your photo (and my Westy) front swaybar does NOT look like the diagrams for regular Sprinters, unless seeing diagrams incorrectly.

3. Broken or Missing Part?

What exact part are you looking for?

A..The rod with bushings at each end, 90 degrees offset? Like the photo of the new one which is not the same?

If the new one is not a fit, can it be disassembled and the end pieces used with the original rod?

B. The bracket (not in diagrams) which holds the currently unconnected lower end of that rod in photo?

4. Post on T1N Subforum

Maybe take some more photos and post on the T1N Subforum. Westy owners have gotten some good help there, including identifying some coolant hose part which does not show on parts diagrams.


Please post whatever you find. Thanks.

Last edited by OldWest; 10-30-2017 at 07:54 PM. Reason: Add query re using new one for parts?
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:26 AM   #5
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

OldWest,

Regarding #1 - that's the million dollar question... Per your comment #2, whatever I have (and sounds like what you have as well) is not the standard/stock 2500/3500 front swaybar.

Regarding #3, the part I'm looking for is 'A' (90 degree offset with minor bend and bushings/bolts built in). As you note B (to stabilizer bar itself) isn't in the picture.

The one you refer to as "new" is the one shown installed... just looks new because the mechanic cleaned it up to see if he could find any part number.

The problem is I can't find a new one that matches and the one on the left side broke... i.e. the bar broke and so suppose one could weld the ends to a new bar, but would need to match angles and dimensions of original exactly and would be concerned about the strength of any welds that were created.

Ughhh... Shouldn't be this complicated!!!
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:25 AM   #6
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

Might try three more things.

1. VIN

Did you use the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) with a Mercedes dealer? Sometimes, our special eqpt shows up on a VIN search.

2. Get the Vehicle Build Sheet

Take the vehicle build.sheet (at least one Westy owner posted their info) and maybe share the codes with a Mercedes dealer to track down info.

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...highlight=Data

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...2&postcount=44

Maybe these two items from data card???:

C45 H.D. FRONT AXLE STABILIZER
CE1 ANTI-ROLL SUSPENSION

3. James Cook Friends Forum

Besides the T1N subforum here, try posting in the James Cook Friends forum, subforum for James Cook to 2006. Post photos there. Maybe someone there might know.

http://forum.james-cook-freunde.de/v...6b4d6206ea8718

Please keep us posted. What a hunt.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:05 PM   #7
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

Technical Service Bulletin 32-20-01

http://recalltsb.com/2004/SPRINTER/2500

Does anyone have a copy of this? From brief description, mentions C45 which our Westies apparently have. May have useful info on part numbers.


Wrong NCV3 forum thread, but may have useful info. I can't open the files:

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...29&postcount=5

Last edited by OldWest; 10-31-2017 at 06:59 PM. Reason: Link to NCV3 posting with a service bulletin.
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:56 PM   #8
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

Alternative:

Replace with standard Sprinter front stabilizer bar???

If you can't get the right link or rod, will a standard or heavy duty (as described in Europarts-SD.com) front stabilizer bar fit (are there any other Westy modifications which prevent a standard one from fitting?)?

While replacing more parts and different sway bar, maybe not much difference especially if the new sway bar bushings described in service bulletin work better?

How much difference in thickness between the standard and the Westy?
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Old 11-02-2017, 04:20 AM   #9
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

Took your advise and posted to the T1N forum here and to the James Cook forum... see what response I get.

I suppose I could replace the whole damn thing, but would prefer to figure out if I can't get the right part. If I don't get anything in response to the two posts referenced above, I'll probably take that route.

Thanks again for all of your help/research/suggestions.
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Old 11-08-2017, 04:25 PM   #10
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Default Re: Front SwayBar Repair...

no response on either the T1N forum or the James Cook Forum.... can't believe I'm the only one that's encountered this issue.
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