8TrackDirtPlayer
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Hey y'all,
I'm a relatively new T1N owner and Sprinter-Forum user. The wealth of info here has already helped substantially. Thank you! I'm no search guru, but I did poke around and was unable to find a thread documenting a similar experience, hopefully this post isn't rehashing a known issue...feel free to point me to it if I'm wrong (a likely scenario!). Anyway, let's get down to it!
Our van is a 2002 3500 just shy of 110k miles. We recently did some routine maintenance type things, oil/filter change, trans fluid/filter change, brake pads/rotors. We've put about 5k on it since buying the vehicle a few months ago. Usage consists of driving up to 500 or so miles at a time every other week, mixed highway/city and the very occasional gravel road or mountain pass. I typically keep it at or under 70 mph on the highway. When we take it out we are "loaded up" with a couple hundred pounds of bikes and gear, our "build out" consists of a sleeping platform and a bench seat. I'd hazard a guess you all would call this light use. Hopefully that sums up the vehicle information. Now onto the issue.
About 3 weeks ago we had a "long drive" from Atlanta to DC where we spent the weekend racing bikes. Started it up to leave and it quickly died after running for only a second or two. Cranked it over for 30 seconds at a time about 12 times with no start. Battery was charged and both terminals had tight connections. All of the fuses under the steering wheel were good. Had it towed to a diesel shop and they read some codes saying the ECM wasn't communicating with other modules. They determined a ground was bad and that a fuse had popped. Shortly after we were on our way back to Atlanta and over the past couple weeks we made a number of small trips around town successfully with no negative symptoms.
A few days ago I hopped in the van and started it up only to experience something very similar. It started up, ran for only a second or two and didn't start after prolonged cranking. Battery had 12.4v, tight terminals, and all fuses under the steering wheel in tact. I bought an Autel MD808 Pro in hopes to be better prepared for this situation and it gave me very similar sounding errors:
C1022 - The CAN communication of the engine control module is faulty
P2311 - No CAN message from engine control module or message faulty
B1040-000 The CAN communication of the engine control module is faulty
These make me think it is a very similar issue. It should be noted there is an aftermarket trailer brake controller installed by the previous owner, I wonder if how they wired it in is making things behave in a funky way...anywho, it seems I should be checking any and all grounding points of the ECM. It does seem there are a few connectors that plug into that module, so I would think there is more than one ground (feel free to educate me on this, as I am mostly ignorant here). I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of a wiring diagram or share some knowledge before I start poking and prodding. I'd hate to make the situation worse but I'm also trying to avoid another tow to a technician, at least before giving it an honest look and effort at resolving the issue.
Luckily this time the van is in my driveway which gives me a little bit of time before pulling the trigger on calling in the professionals. Any help you all can provide would be greatly appreciated!
-Zach
I'm a relatively new T1N owner and Sprinter-Forum user. The wealth of info here has already helped substantially. Thank you! I'm no search guru, but I did poke around and was unable to find a thread documenting a similar experience, hopefully this post isn't rehashing a known issue...feel free to point me to it if I'm wrong (a likely scenario!). Anyway, let's get down to it!
Our van is a 2002 3500 just shy of 110k miles. We recently did some routine maintenance type things, oil/filter change, trans fluid/filter change, brake pads/rotors. We've put about 5k on it since buying the vehicle a few months ago. Usage consists of driving up to 500 or so miles at a time every other week, mixed highway/city and the very occasional gravel road or mountain pass. I typically keep it at or under 70 mph on the highway. When we take it out we are "loaded up" with a couple hundred pounds of bikes and gear, our "build out" consists of a sleeping platform and a bench seat. I'd hazard a guess you all would call this light use. Hopefully that sums up the vehicle information. Now onto the issue.
About 3 weeks ago we had a "long drive" from Atlanta to DC where we spent the weekend racing bikes. Started it up to leave and it quickly died after running for only a second or two. Cranked it over for 30 seconds at a time about 12 times with no start. Battery was charged and both terminals had tight connections. All of the fuses under the steering wheel were good. Had it towed to a diesel shop and they read some codes saying the ECM wasn't communicating with other modules. They determined a ground was bad and that a fuse had popped. Shortly after we were on our way back to Atlanta and over the past couple weeks we made a number of small trips around town successfully with no negative symptoms.
A few days ago I hopped in the van and started it up only to experience something very similar. It started up, ran for only a second or two and didn't start after prolonged cranking. Battery had 12.4v, tight terminals, and all fuses under the steering wheel in tact. I bought an Autel MD808 Pro in hopes to be better prepared for this situation and it gave me very similar sounding errors:
C1022 - The CAN communication of the engine control module is faulty
P2311 - No CAN message from engine control module or message faulty
B1040-000 The CAN communication of the engine control module is faulty
These make me think it is a very similar issue. It should be noted there is an aftermarket trailer brake controller installed by the previous owner, I wonder if how they wired it in is making things behave in a funky way...anywho, it seems I should be checking any and all grounding points of the ECM. It does seem there are a few connectors that plug into that module, so I would think there is more than one ground (feel free to educate me on this, as I am mostly ignorant here). I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of a wiring diagram or share some knowledge before I start poking and prodding. I'd hate to make the situation worse but I'm also trying to avoid another tow to a technician, at least before giving it an honest look and effort at resolving the issue.
Luckily this time the van is in my driveway which gives me a little bit of time before pulling the trigger on calling in the professionals. Any help you all can provide would be greatly appreciated!
-Zach
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