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Old 01-29-2013, 12:34 AM   #11
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I was told today, by a Government Vehicle Registration Enforcement Official, that in Ontario, it is a rather simple procedure to get such conversions registered as RV's. You just go to Service Ontario, fill out the form, jump through a few hoops, and you're done! The vehicle must meet certain requirements, such as a permanent bed attached to either the floor or the wall, cooking facility, sink with running water, etc.
It was also suggested that for registration, they are not the slightest bit interested in CSA approval - couldn't care less! The vehicle itself must meet all the requirements for MTO approval.

I AM concerned, however, if I drive my Ontario legal camper conversion into Quebec, can they pull me over and impound my home because it is not legal in their province? Sure would be a reason to avoid an otherwise beautiful place!
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:00 AM   #12
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Personally I think you are worrying about problem that doesn't really exist. I could be wrong, but you could contact the functional equivilant of MTO and see what they say about a "foreign" vehicle being driven in PQ.

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Old 01-29-2013, 01:18 AM   #13
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Personally I think you are worrying about problem that doesn't really exist. I could be wrong, but you could contact the functional equivilant of MTO and see what they say about a "foreign" vehicle being driven in PQ.

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I agree with your first sentence.

A story. I'll try to keep it short.

We bought our J/22 sailboat from a dealer in Franklin, TN. When I asked about trailer registration they said that there was a DMV station in Tennessee on the way out of the State. So-o-o, the family and I towed the boat to the State line and shure 'nuff, there was the official station.

I left the family in the van and waded in. It turns out that TN doesn't consider trailers vehicles. Once the trailer is connected to the tow vehicle it is part of the vehicle. End of story.

My question was, "Then what should I do about registration?? the answer, "Maybe you should stop in Kentucky and see what they say."

Went back out to the van and climbed in. My wife asked, "So what did they say?" "

"There's no reason to do anything.", was my quick reply. We drove on home without incident.

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:47 AM   #14
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I was told today, by a Government Vehicle Registration Enforcement Official, that in Ontario, it is a rather simple procedure to get such conversions registered as RV's. You just go to Service Ontario, fill out the form, jump through a few hoops, and you're done! The vehicle must meet certain requirements, such as a permanent bed attached to either the floor or the wall, cooking facility, sink with running water, etc.
It was also suggested that for registration, they are not the slightest bit interested in CSA approval - couldn't care less! The vehicle itself must meet all the requirements for MTO approval.

I AM concerned, however, if I drive my Ontario legal camper conversion into Quebec, can they pull me over and impound my home because it is not legal in their province? Sure would be a reason to avoid an otherwise beautiful place!
Hi, I am faced with this issue as I purchased a Freightliner Sprinter that is registered in Ontario as a Commercial vehicle. Where did you contact a "Government Vehicle Registration Enforcement Official"? What Ministry? I like the answer, just need to know how to change the registration class.

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Old 09-26-2013, 02:01 AM   #15
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Wow. Interesting old thread. I have taken mine to Montreal, half of Quebec and PEI.
I was vigorously inspected at customs... get out of the vehicle while they have a look around... and nobody mentioned anything.
Does this nonsense apply to foreign vehicles, registered in other countries?
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:46 AM   #16
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Wow. Interesting old thread. I have taken mine to Montreal, half of Quebec and PEI.
I was vigorously inspected at customs... get out of the vehicle while they have a look around... and nobody mentioned anything.
Does this nonsense apply to foreign vehicles, registered in other countries?
There won't be a problem with foreign vehicles as long as they are legally registered in your home state.

Canada Customs was probably looking for firearms &/or illegal aliens when they examined your van.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:17 AM   #17
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As far as I can tell it's definitely illegal to have a homemade conversion van registered in the Province of Quebec. Does anyone know of any other province or state with similar laws?
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As far as I can tell it's definitely illegal to have a homemade conversion van registered in the Province of Quebec. Does anyone know of any other province or state with similar laws?


That might explain all the incredibly old, ugly looking rvs on ancient Ford and Datsun platforms I see making their way to Florida each year.

Never understood why The east coast Canadians had such a percentage of these... now it makes sense.
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That might explain all the incredibly old, ugly looking rvs on ancient Ford and Datsun platforms I see making their way to Florida each year.

Never understood why The east coast Canadians had such a percentage of these... now it makes sense.

Believe me, east coast Canadians would not like being considered Quebecer's!
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Let's see... if it has a bed, sink and stove *permanently attached*, it's an RV and thus illegal?

So what if you don't have (at least) one of those items *permanently attached*?
(bungee cord the stove to the cabinet? Quick-release ViseGrips clamping the bed to floor anchors?)
Or, as was built and later attempted to be sold by a group member: a totally-removable camper conversion that pulled out as a single unit (the pretty walls served as a "shell"), leaving an unmodified cargo Sprinter 5 minutes later.

My own "conversion" doesn't have a sink nor attached stove, and the bed attachment uses a couple of J-bolts to hold it to the original seat anchors (plus one through-floor bolt in the back). Although i current use nylon-insert lock nuts, substituting these or these would make it a tool-less removal process.

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