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Old 01-08-2016, 01:31 PM   #1
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CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

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Please don't let this happen to you!

Basically a 2006 TIN owner and family driving their motor home and trailer rig to the Denver area.
Somewhere en route in Wyoming, metal road debris flew out from under a semi and tore through the side wall of his rear tire, mounted on a factory alum wheel.

Apart for the pucker factor to keep it straight and upright and stop at about 70mph (OMG)
He got the thing to the side of the road!
OK--now fit the spare--a steel wheel!!!

Forgetting the wheel bolts are LONGER for Alum wheel he bolts up the spare--then carries on!!
Well for a few feet!

In short, (excuse the pun!) the longer wheel bolts tore up the parking brake shoes, hardware, park brake cable, ABS tone ring, axle bearing carrier and ABS sensor. A right bloody mess.

Poor fellow limped it into our shop yesterday.
I managed to get enough stuff to fix it, the local Dodge dealer had some parts, and I had I did, the rest on the shelf. (luckily)
The Dodge parts guys asked if I had tried the local Benz dealers---Big chuckle--I stated they aren't even open on a Saturday gimme a break!
I should go work for them said Mitch the parts guy!

Anyway a few hours later they were motoring away "All ship shape and Bristol Fashion" but short of some holiday money. Tires for starters aren't cheap in commercial 10ply that was $420 before we got going! And he had just replaced them all round.

Anyway bon voyage and lets hope he has no more incidences going back home.
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Don't forget you need shorter wheel bolts with "steelies"
Dennis
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This just occurred to me. Nobody knows who might be changing the tire. Just knowing about this problem may not be enough.

Those who have alloy wheels and long lug bolts would be wise to include a large print warning about the bolts in with jack tools. Even better would be to cable tie a weatherproof warning to the spare tire steel wheel. I would thread the cable tie right through one of the lug holes. One would hope that roadside assistance would know about the difference, but it would be best not left to chance.

The spare is accessible enough that a laminated yellow or red note can be added without dropping the spare out of the holder.

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Pardon my ignorance, but where would we find the shorter lug nuts for the spare? Are they attached somewhere to the spare itself or maybe in with the jack?
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Pardon my ignorance, but where would we find the shorter lug nuts for the spare? Are they attached somewhere to the spare itself or maybe in with the jack?
They are likely in with the jack in the passenger foot board compartment. There is an OEM plastic tool kit pouch. They may fit into there. I have all steel wheels so I have no actual experience.

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Mine were in the compartment passenger side footwell with the jack.
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Default Re: CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

So I was just in the jack compartment and I didn't have extra lug nuts. I need to inspect to see if my spare wheel is different or the same as the other 4. Good info here. I would hate for this to happen in Baja where I'm sure it is much harder to get parts.
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I think we need to clarify the difference between a nut and a bolt, and which your vehicle uses. Only then can you determine if this could be an issue with your vehicle.
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Default Re: CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

One big reason to also carry an alloy spare if you have four already on the vehicle. The different lug nuts are rim specific and this turned into a costly mistake - especially on the road where Sprinter shops are few and parts hard to get and expensive! Lucky for them that they were near Dennis in CO!
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Default Re: CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

Seems like the vehicle which had the problem is a trailer. I thought this was a sprinter only forum. I'm concerned as to whether our Itasca Navion with cast wheels presents the same problem.
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Default Re: CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

My 2016 came with factory alloys and a matching alloy spare, and I thought this was standard practice for Mercedes. Is this warning primarily folks with aftermarket wheels or upfitted RVs where they cut corners with a steel spare, or did some older sprinters not come with all the same wheels from the factory?
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Default Re: CAUTION FOR ALLOY WHEELS and Steel Spare

Dave D,
ALL Sprinters come from the factory with a "set" of wheels.
For 316/319/2500 Sprinters with LUG BOLTS you get 5 steel wheels (any position using short LUG BOLTS).
If you order a 316/319/2500 (USA) Sprinter with the factory alloy wheels (4) or it comes this way when you
buy it off the dealers lot, you get a steel spare wheel that needs a set of short LUG BOLTS.
If you add aftermarket wheels to a 316/319/2500 (USA) you need to get LUG BOLTS with the wheels that fit the
grip length required for the wheels you purchase.
If you have 516/519/3500 (USA) Sprinter with dual rear wheels, you have LUG NUTS and you can safely mount
aftermarket (if correctly designed to support the weight on a fully loaded Sprinter) wheels or the OEM steel wheels
using the same LUG NUTS.
All 516/519/3500 (USA) wheels will fit in any position, but the fronts and the inner rear wheels mount with the
offset toward the center of the vehicle.
The outer rear 3500 dually wheels mount with the offset facing away from the center of the vehicle.
Just a cautionary safety note here.....Sprinters with dual rear wheels do NOT use the BUDD Wheel system
where there are inner and outer lug nuts.
So, if you remove the lug nuts to change an outer flat tire, just be aware that both wheels are loose and
the vehicle could easily fall.
All the little "tricks" that truckers use to change an outer flat tire do NOT apply to Sprinters.
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