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Old 07-14-2016, 02:19 PM   #21
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This does not answer your question.

I don't believe that all parts need to be OEM or from a dealership, but sometimes it just makes sense.

Given your recent experience, why would you not buy an OEM or at least the same manufacturer as OEM?

You may not be as lucky with minimal damage with future non-OEM failures.

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OK, where do I order an OEM balancer. all I find on line are the Doorman and Dayco versions.
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:22 PM   #22
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Maybe the dealer? It's a long shot.
I got mine from the Dodge dealer. Freightliner dealers can get them, maybe even a MB dealer?
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Old 10-22-2016, 01:35 AM   #23
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Default Re: Harmonic Balancer

If you need to press on after discovering a HB problem there may be a response to a loss of rubber bond on the harmonic balancer. The ring can be removed and the Sprinter driven with the ring missing.

At least it worked for Alexk243. I personally would keep my speeds/rpm down a bit. I have no data.

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So the outside ring on the harmonic balancer is loose and spinning freely... Appears the bolt is tight... How much time do I have? I am 500 miles from home.

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How high is up?

The proper answer is that it needs to be repaired. If it comes loose it can do a bunch of damage.

One possibility. The ring will pass over the serpentine belt pulley. Remove the serpentine belt, remove the separated ring, and re-install the belt.

That should get rid of the balancer failing.

Were I to try that I would keep my speeds down to 55 mph to keep engine rpm's down. That said, there may be rpm ranges where more vibration is noticed than in others. If discovered I would avoid those ranges.

There must be many people who have run the T1N with a partially failed harmonic balancer which wasn't doing the job.

To be clear. I have never tried what I suggest above. I have no idea what the risks of trying it may be.

Good luck.

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So I have no reception and Wi-Fi but I guess I reached the same conclusion that you guys did. I drove 50 miles on it to an awesome diesel mechanic shop and they took the belt off and removed the ring. They also made sure the harmonic balancer was on there tight. After that (10 mins or so haha) I headed back and made the last 500 miles or so safely. Noticed a lot higher vibration as I approached 70 mph so stayed well below that.

You can see the ring removed on the floor of the shop by the driver door.



Thanks for the quick responses guys. Sorry I could only check it when I was at a place with Wi-Fi

Now my next question is what harmonic balancer is recommend for replacement? I am fine paying more so this does not happen again. Any thoughts?
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Old 10-29-2016, 01:01 AM   #24
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I bought the tool and had no problems. Swing out the radiator, remove the fan, replaced the HB, water pump, alternator, resonator, belt tensioner, belt and anything else while I had it open. No problem with any of it, got the parts at Europarts SD.
It took a whole case of beer to do it.
What is the process for swinging out the radiator?

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Old 10-29-2016, 04:53 AM   #25
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You don't need to remove the rad'!
In fact you don't even need to remove the fan and cowl either if its the rack or over a pit!

But if you are having "bash" for the first time, then remove the fan & cowl and there is plenty of room to change it out.

Put a piece of carton or packing box cut off over the inner radiator matrix to protect the fins.
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What is the process for swinging out the radiator?

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If you decide to swing it out there is an outline here.

http://www.sprinter-source.com/forum...200#post127200

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Old 10-31-2016, 04:20 PM   #27
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I was thinking of swinging it out since I am doing the belt, pullies, water pump, and balancer. Do yo need to pull it out to do all that?



EDITED, that link provided info on water pump replacement.
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So I'm stuck, I have the locking key to get the balancer off, but I can't figure out where it goes to lock the cams. Any help would be awesome

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Flywheel locking tool I mean

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On the very bottom of the bell housing there is an opening where you insert the lock. the lock itself engages with two bolts which are currently installed in the bell housing they are almost vertical. Back the bolts out and install the lock onto them. The hole itself is where the starter would go if you had a manual transmission sprinter so there should be a small opening where you can stick your fingers in and fell the teeth on the outside of the flexplate. if you look at the lock it has a series of small teeth which engage in the teeth on the outside of the flexplate. it's a bit of a brain stretch but you should be able to figure out how it aligns based on those.

The photos on this Amazon listing give you a rough idea of how the lock installs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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