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Old 04-15-2018, 06:40 PM   #1
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I'm expecting my first van, a 170 4x4 to arrive within the month and my head has been spinning with ideas (more confusion) after all the research on buildouts I've done since. The biggest unknown for me is a bed solution and I was looking for a direction from some of those with experience here.

My needs require hauling 2 dirt bikes and 1 mtb in the back and keep them in there while sleeping. I hope to do so with a dedicated area for the bikes and living quarters in front. I don't want to jettison gear in a Walmart or rest area parking lot if I end of sleeping in such areas in a pinch. The moto handlebars site quite a bit higher than a mtb so the difficulty comes in finding a platform that can be lowered when bikes are not along for the trip are raised when they are. If said platform is above the bars will there be sufficient room above to sleep without it being too claustrophobic? I've seen 2 different ideas that would likely work and welcome opinions on either or other:
  • The HappiJac. Little more than 1/2 the MOAB price and more flexible. Don't know why more of these aren't used in Sprinters. Are there negatives I'm unaware of with these units? http://happijac.com/bed-lifts.html

I mostly travel solo with 1 moto and 1 mtb but sometimes carry more than that (2 motos and 1 mtb). When multiple motos are used sometimes I'll need to sleep 2 and would prefer the 2nd have their own sleeping area. This would likely be in the living area in front of the bikes in form of a converted counter top with cushions. The back sleeping quarters are what I struggle with.

Any help is appreciated.
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Old 04-15-2018, 06:59 PM   #2
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  • The HappiJac. Little more than 1/2 the MOAB price and more flexible. Don't know why more of these aren't used in Sprinters. Are there negatives I'm unaware of with these units? http://happijac.com/bed-lifts.html

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Maybe Youtube will give ideas for your application?

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...inter+happijac

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i went with the existing E-track that i had. they're mounted horizontally but ive seen guys mount them vertically then attach the bed platform so that you could raise or lower it to whatever level you want. you could use any track system, i just had e-track here so i went with that.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:05 PM   #4
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i went with the existing E-track that i had. they're mounted horizontally but ive seen guys mount them vertically then attach the bed platform so that you could raise or lower it to whatever level you want. you could use any track system, i just had e-track here so i went with that.
When using e-track mounted horizontally how did you mount the bedframe when in the upper position? It seems that where the framing exists to support the e-track (above the windows) that would be too high for the bottom of the bedframe. Are there some type of drop down stud holders for the e-track?
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When using e-track mounted horizontally how did you mount the bedframe when in the upper position? It seems that where the framing exists to support the e-track (above the windows) that would be too high for the bottom of the bedframe. Are there some type of drop down stud holders for the e-track?
I didn't go that high. my rails are about 40'' off of the floor mounted horizontally attached to the walls which are lined with 1/4'' plywood on 1/2'' furring strips then i used self tapping screws were i could reach steel. if i need to i will add a 2'' x 1/2'' strip underneath the length of the track so that the track rests on it adding even more strength. i build everything solid just in case i need to load up the bed platform or something in the future. you could do the same thing up top where your talking about and not have to hit steel cause it will just be a platform, no people on it so not much weight.


heres a picture of E-track mounting vertically. this would have been a lot easier but i would have used 3-4 rails (Solid)


https://s5.postimg.cc/z8tfpcz8n/3f0d...b13f7c36d3.jpg
https://s5.postimg.cc/q2b51x1o7/3324...rack_3_640.jpg

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heres a interesting contraption that could be of use to someone. looks like square tubing with a bolt through the end giving it the ability to drop down. you could have your bed in the up position then use a few of these to make a quick work bench or table or maybe even use them to brace your bikes?

https://s5.postimg.cc/yjand8yrr/revi...-ra-26_644.jpg
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Default Re: Bed suggestions with moto & mtb in mind

Thanks for the info. The platform however will need to be a bed as I plan on sleeping above the motos when loaded. When no motos (or just mtbs) I’d like to lower the bed/platform so that I’m not sleeping so high (inconvenient). With vertical e-track I’m sure this can be done, I just need to figure out how to mount the straight track on the bowed walls. Mounting the track horizontally would be a challenge as the only steel (needed for support as this will be a bed) is too high. Drop down e-track stud holders, if there is such a thing could work.
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Iím not doing the garage style, I hate it, makes the van way tighter. Doing a bed up front with room for all the bikes in the back. Maybe a hanger for mtb


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I'm thinking about this bed kit
www.overlandsprinters.com/platform-bed-kit.html
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Iím not doing the garage style, I hate it, makes the van way tighter. Doing a bed up front with room for all the bikes in the back. Maybe a hanger for mtb


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Yeah, no problem for short trips. I plan on having a living area and kitchen up there along with optional sleeping space for a 2nd. All while on the road for 1-2 months. Without these constraints I wouldíve gone with the 144.
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