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Old 01-16-2015, 02:32 AM   #1
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Miss Piggy (thanks Orion for the name) arrived at dealer today. Will post info here on things that may be useful to the members of this forum. I have a list of about 100 changes/improvements that will be made to the Transit conversion. Some of those should be of value to others. Thought this would be a better place to post the info. than the conversion thread or the danger zone.

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Dave has created his own website. It looks to be the same high quality as his conversion work (as would be expected). I for one will miss Dave's input at Sprinter-source. We hope that he continues to check in here on occasion.

Graphite Dave's New Transit Conversion Web Page is here:
http://ortontransit.info/

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We can compare notes. My brother just got his diesel transit. Different uses, though.
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Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'll be looking forward to your insights.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:45 PM   #4
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Miss Piggy (thanks Orion for the name) arrived at dealer today. Will post info here on things that may be useful to the members of this forum. I have a list of about 100 changes/improvements that will be made to the Transit conversion. Some of those should be of value to others. Thought this would be a better place to post the info. than the conversion thread or the danger zone.
Maybe Sikwan will give you guys a Competition Write-ups Section?

I would appreciate it if you would start off with exactly what you ordered. Even better might be a couple lines about why you ordered what you did. That might provide a good beginning.

I've been looking around a bit. It seems the Transits can be ordered with full glass as a cargo model and a few other variations. I'm certain that the order system isn't as complex as MB likes to make ordering a Sprinter, but there must be some basic options which pretty much every new owner might want. Now that I think about it I'll create a Transit build sheet thread.

Here it is.

Ford Transit Options, Build Sheet Choices and Details
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=352184

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The Transit hasn't been put in service yet. Has the badging and is currently getting a passenger interior installed. They have found that it is cheaper to buy cargo sprinters and add interiors than to pull and throw away seats. So they have done the same with the transit. Then the wheelchair lift and off to daily service. A dodge/fiat is also expected soon.
Got a poor sprinter shot today. I'll post it over in the appropriate spot.
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Maybe Sikwan will give you guys a Competition Write-ups Section?

I would appreciate it if you would start off with exactly what you ordered. Even better might be a couple lines about why you ordered what you did. That might provide a good beginning.

I've been looking around a bit. It seems the Transits can be ordered with full glass as a cargo model and a few other variations. I'm certain that the order system isn't as complex as MB likes to make ordering a Sprinter, but there must be some basic options which pretty much every new owner might want. Now that I think about it I'll create a Transit build sheet thread.

Here it is.

Ford Transit Options, Build Sheet Choices and Details
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=352184

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Sorry I did not see this post so a bit late answering it.

3.5 Ecoboost gas engine (wanted gas engine)
144" WB not extended
high roof
3.31:1 limited slip rear end (always bought my pickups with LS)
Slider and rear glass
9000 GVWR 250
Reverse park aid (backed into 3 things in Sprinter with $1200 tree damage once)
rear view camera (same as above)
trailer hitch
HD twin batteries
HD alternator
Short arm power heated mirrors (wanted the additional turn signals in housings)
AM/FM/CD radio
Cruise Control
Black wheels
Four upfitter switches ( Easy interface to vehicle 12 volt system)
Trailer brake controller
Remote Start (Wanted to be able to start van from sleeping bag to heat van in morning)
LED cargo lights
two additional keys
rear 12 volt power point
Privacy glass
Map lights
Sterling Grey Exterior ($150) and charcoal cloth seats (no charge)

Wanted gas engine to get rid of the diesel emission band-aids. Tried to make medium height work but could not without giving up my insulated floor. Did not buy either the interior upgrade or exterior upgrade packages. Did not buy any security packages or the overhead air bags

Very pleased with vehicle. IMO much better vehicle than 08 Sprinter. I now have 6400 miles on it without any problems and I got rid of my Sprinter fear that it would quit many miles from a service location. First oil/filter change at 5000 miles cost $21 where I supplied the 6 quarts bought from Costco for $29. Far cry from the $350 Sprinter service. Ford recommends 10,000 mile oil change but I will do 5,000 mile.

If MPG is your sole purchasing requirement then the Sprinter is still the best choice. I have averaged 16.5 mpg since new. It finally dawned on me that fuel economy is not that important for my application. I do like the major acceleration improvement that is there when you need it. Not used often.

The most important differences are the better controls, a gearbox that works, a vehicle that handles and it is quieter.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:37 PM   #7
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Miss Piggy now has a new floor. Took considerable time to get done. Object was to minimize noise, add insulation and give floor attachment points for the bench seats, table, sink cabinet and the refrigerator/shower cabinet. Also wanted the 80/20 (T-slots) extrusion frame to be thermally isolated from the van steel.

Step # 1: Removed Transit insulated vinyl pad and slider door plastic step cover.
Step # 2: Built 80/20 frame and temporarily placed it on bare floor.
Step # 3: Located and cut 4" x 4" air vent hole, 1 3/8" sink drain hole, 1 3/8" shower drain hole, 1 3/8" propane box drain hole, drilled two additional holes in floor to anchor 80/20. Used two existing floor holes as will as 8 perimeter D-ring tapped holes.
Step # 4: removed the 80/20 framework.
Step # 5: made the 7 perimeter plywood anchor aluminum angles.
Step # 6: Cut 4 pieces of 1/2" plywood for floor. Joint down centerline and another cross van just behind slider door opening.
Step # 7: Again reinstalled the 80/20 framework.
Step # 8: Located all the hole locations on the plywood where 80/20 bolts to the plywood and the bolt holes for angles bolted to D-ring bolt holes on the perimeter. From below located the air vent hole, the three 1 3/8" holes and drilled the four through the floor anchor bolt holes.
Step # 9: Cut and drilled all the holes in the plywood. Painted plywood. Installed the elevator bolts in plywood with polyurethane adhesive between bolt head and plywood.
Step # 10: Used adhesive to install 1/2" plywood strips at slider and back door thresholds. Used adhesive to install 1/2" plywood strip across van behind seats to support 80/20. Also added 1/2" plywood strips at several places where there was a long distance between the raised portions of the corrugated floor.
Step # 11: Filled between the floor corrugations with close celled foam.
Step # 12: Covered floor with 1/8" loaded vinyl for noise control and moisture barrier. Calked around perimeter of vinyl with elastic caulk. Drilled and cut holes in vinyl layer.
Step # 13: Installed plywood floor.
Step # 14: Installed 1 1/2" rigid insulation under cabinets and used "Great stuff" spray foam to fill any voids.
Step # 15. Filled 80/20 framework in walk area with bottom layer of 1" rigid insulation, middle layer of 1/8" Masonite and a top layer of 3/8" gym mat.

Took a lot of time but I now have insulated floor with the 80/20 thermally isolated from the van steel. Also have the bottom 80/20 framework for the cabinets and benches.
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Making some progress. Have most of the 80/20 installed. Will remove part of it to do the insulation. Couple of changes with this conversion.

1. All 80/20 will be thermally isolated with plywood between aluminum and van steel.
2. All the nuts are elastic stop nuts.
3. Because of tall roof I rotated the baskets 90 degrees and bought more and larger baskets.
4. Electrical panel cabinet will be double size of Sprinter.
5. Sink cabinet will have 80/20 frame.
6. No roll in nuts. Used two hole economy nuts with 5/16" set screw in one hole and other hole for attachment. Much easier to position and hold in place.

Negative of using carriage bolts is to remember all fasteners that need to be installed before end access is lost. I have assembled and unassembled to get them all in. Carriage bolts with flat and angle connectors is very robust. The wall brackets for the upper cabinet are temporary so I can measure what is needs to be fabricated out of 14 ga, SS.

The method of hanging the upper cabinets is shown in one picture and the ceiling centerline bolt hole is shown. Ceiling will be flat so spacer required to lower it on van centerline.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:04 AM   #10
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For those of you that are not familiar with my 08 Sprinter conversion here is a picture:

http://sprinter-source.com/forum/sho...36&postcount=1

Transit will look almost the same.
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