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Old 06-21-2009, 03:52 AM   #11
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I'm curious why you would join a site that is full of folks who own Sprinters, and in your first post just crap all over them.

You didn't come in asking for help or suggestions, you didn't ask for clarification on anyone else's past solutions, you just came in spewing.

There is good info and help in here so maybe YOU can work WITH your dealer and solve your issues.

Otherwise I suggest you try and find a website called sprintersucks.com or mydealersux.com. if all you want to do is rant.
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:22 AM   #12
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I'm not ranting. Actually, I'm calm as a cucumber. I'm just stating facts. This vehicle stalled three times yesterday. I don't like placing myself in danger or placing others in danger. I've reported it to the National Highway Saftey Board. If there are folks that think I was out of line...to them I apologize.
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I'm curious why you would join a site that is full of folks who own Sprinters, and in your first post just crap all over them.

You didn't come in asking for help or suggestions, you didn't ask for clarification on anyone else's past solutions, you just came in spewing.

There is good info and help in here so maybe YOU can work WITH your dealer and solve your issues.

Otherwise I suggest you try and find a website called sprintersucks.com or mydealersux.com. if all you want to do is rant.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:11 AM   #13
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Dam this I'm putting my foot down before it gets out of control, as this has happened before.
First Of: Hello Big ED welcome to the forum that's Global.'There is none better. and were not perfect either.
Your a first poster and the way you represented it quote: Don't Buy a Sprinter":End of quote! Nuts, as that does not come across the forum or sit well with the older members. Your comment was negative, and presented no reasoning at all! So it' was biased based.
exclusively on hear-say as to what one could asistain as an owner with no clues at all,negative rules give positivity a chance. or Hmmm a dealer issue which now shows in part only to factual.But with no attachment as to WHY? just a pass the buck and blame it on some one else of which consenting to the fact that the dealerships in the main criteria, typically they have failed to invest in the technology required to participate as a dealership servicing the Sprinter, with care and duty by training in doth Diesel and Electronic technology, that is now on any modern commercial vehicle world wide that costs big dollars.

So start again look on the forum and use the search tool, you will find as much information you would need we have the right members that can guide you to a fix or servicing, this is what the forum is for.

Your list is somewhat medium range for general issues that can happen, so think it out and ask.

In part your main issues are emissions so WHY! and as to what fuel are you using and operating conditions etc.

Your Sprinter is a NAFTA design not the same as Mercedes -Benz proper. which do have problems from time to time. quite often it's the owner that has no understanding of a Sprinter or as to which Sprinter he bought! Would be best suited for his or hers operational needs.
Jerry 51 is a non sprinter owner but the comment is valid the problem lies with the culture set of many Dealerships now at last being sorted out, but bad dealers will always be about to the detriment of the owner, unless he's clued in enough to smell out a rat dealer playing that old rip off game with claim back on warranty parts that were not defective in the first place in many areas where ...Oh Too HARD JUST REPLACE IT AND WE WILL CHARGE IT OUT ON BACK-WARRANTY FROM EX Chrysler.

OK that's the way it came across and I think you can see as to why negativity can rule the thread, so lets get it into perspective and start from scratch.

First claim Air does not work, what did the dealer do to rectify the issue! but what is the cause of a non operational air con?. As for example front, or dual air. Big Ed indicate your state and town there are members who may be able to guide you to another dealership location.

Now start again, and welcome to the forum, and enjoy it, some of the members are sane, some are clowns but negativity leads to problems on the forum. It would pay to generate a separate thread to each problem, as multiple faults. As you first posted thread, will jam the thread up and you will get absolutely nowhere, as to running off the subject.

One thread for each complaint please.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:23 AM   #14
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Your post tells people not to buy one.

Then you cite experiences/conditions/problems that I've never had and I own a 2007 Sprinter. Basically, it comes across as a universal death sentence and not every owner has those problems.

You've registered as a member of a forum and most of us are enthusiastic about Sprinters.

We'd love to help you resolve your Sprinter's issues, seriously, but don't tell us what to do (don't buy one).

A better subject line would have been "My Sprinter Troubles," not a command (don't buy one) that surely wouldn't have had many "Oh, yeah, me too" replies, or "yeah, I agree, they're death traps if you manage to get 'em on the road in the first place."

Where are you located? Maybe there's a member near by that can help you troubleshoot and resolve some of the challenges...

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Old 06-21-2009, 08:07 AM   #15
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Well.
Welcome to our forum.
I own a 2007 2500 170 ex ,a 2008 3500 170 ex and next week I will going to order a 2010 3500 170 ex full optional.....there is not cure for this.
Once you drive a Sprinter you'l never go back for a chevy or ford.
A proud owner of Several Sprinter since 2006.
Sorry about your problem, one thing....EGR valve are covered bi 5 years of warranty and 100.000 miles and even you replace the valve two days before the warranty expaires still carring a full year after all.
Sorry for my English.

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Old 06-21-2009, 01:12 PM   #16
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dont buy one ......a bit to late for most of us poor souls we already have and love them

we need to start a new thread how much i love my sprinter and bring the love back that ed is trying to undermine.

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ps who gave this thread 5 stars? wtf
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:01 PM   #17
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The only way sometimes to call attention to a problem is through publicity...be it good or bad, it is still publicity. But, how can you call me biased? Here is a breakdown of my vehicles and a short opinion of each:
2008 Sprinter 3500-Great so far.
2007 Sprinter 2500-Many problems.
2007 Freightliner P700-Good as gold.
2005 Freightliner P1200-Good as gold.
2005 Chevy Workhorse-Piece of junk (4 Transmissions).
2007 Chevy Express-(2 Transmissions)
2005 Chevy Express-Good as gold.
2007 Chrysler Town & Country-Good as gold.
2005 Chevy Monte Carlo-Many problems.
2000 Dodge Caravan-Good as gold.

Being the owner of 4 Dodge products, I can't see where I'm biased at all. I'm sorry if I rained on your parade. But, I don't need dealer attitudes that basically tell me I'm SOL.


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Dam this I'm putting my foot down before it gets out of control, as this has happened before.
First Of: Hello Big ED welcome to the forum that's Global.'There is none better. and were not perfect either.
Your a first poster and the way you represented it quote: Don't Buy a Sprinter":End of quote! Nuts, as that does not come across the forum or sit well with the older members. Your comment was negative, and presented no reasoning at all! So it' was biased based.
exclusively on hear-say as to what one could asistain as an owner with no clues at all,negative rules give positivity a chance. or Hmmm a dealer issue which now shows in part only to factual.But with no attachment as to WHY? just a pass the buck and blame it on some one else of which consenting to the fact that the dealerships in the main criteria, typically they have failed to invest in the technology required to participate as a dealership servicing the Sprinter, with care and duty by training in doth Diesel and Electronic technology, that is now on any modern commercial vehicle world wide that costs big dollars.

So start again look on the forum and use the search tool, you will find as much information you would need we have the right members that can guide you to a fix or servicing, this is what the forum is for.

Your list is somewhat medium range for general issues that can happen, so think it out and ask.

In part your main issues are emissions so WHY! and as to what fuel are you using and operating conditions etc.

Your Sprinter is a NAFTA design not the same as Mercedes -Benz proper. which do have problems from time to time. quite often it's the owner that has no understanding of a Sprinter or as to which Sprinter he bought! Would be best suited for his or hers operational needs.
Jerry 51 is a non sprinter owner but the comment is valid the problem lies with the culture set of many Dealerships now at last being sorted out, but bad dealers will always be about to the detriment of the owner, unless he's clued in enough to smell out a rat dealer playing that old rip off game with claim back on warranty parts that were not defective in the first place in many areas where ...Oh Too HARD JUST REPLACE IT AND WE WILL CHARGE IT OUT ON BACK-WARRANTY FROM EX Chrysler.

OK that's the way it came across and I think you can see as to why negativity can rule the thread, so lets get it into perspective and start from scratch.

First claim Air does not work, what did the dealer do to rectify the issue! but what is the cause of a non operational air con?. As for example front, or dual air. Big Ed indicate your state and town there are members who may be able to guide you to another dealership location.

Now start again, and welcome to the forum, and enjoy it, some of the members are sane, some are clowns but negativity leads to problems on the forum. It would pay to generate a separate thread to each problem, as multiple faults. As you first posted thread, will jam the thread up and you will get absolutely nowhere, as to running off the subject.

One thread for each complaint please.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:46 PM   #18
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5) ERG valve replaced...still shutting off.

8) Power steering pump replaced. Is leaking again but dealer said that since it was out of warranty they wouldn't replace it OR the ERG valve again.

If the citation is not to the ERG valve, but rather than the EGR valve, then the dealer's statement regarding the warranty must mean the van is beyond the 100,000 mile emission warranty. Of course, the dealer could also be divorcing certain customers.


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6) Brake pads cost has doubled. Dealer said that vendors were cutting Dodge off and they were having to get parts elsewhere at a higher price.
7) Have to drive 100 miles just to get it repaired. Repairs are constant. No local dealer will touch it.
With regard to the brake pads - most of the DIY's on this board do not purchase such consumables from a dealer: dealers are too expensive and not as well informed as alternative sources. We go on line with several well established suppliers. YahooSprinterVan and this site were created for finding and vetting such sources.

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7) Have to drive 100 miles just to get it repaired. Repairs are constant. No local dealer will touch it.
And dealers will become fewer - I also have been rejected from 5-Star Dodge dealers, rejected one dealer for incompetence, and have lost my local Sprinter specialist dealer. Anyone purchasing a vehicle with less then 150,000 TOTAL units in the US must be prepared (in my case I purchased mine with less than 6000 in the US). I am a backyard DIY with no special equipment. These boards with the vast amount of experience - trial and errorsssss for those like me, Master Sprinter craftsmen like Dokter A, and everything in between, is the value of joining these boards. Many report taking the results from threads on these two boards to their mechanics and getting good results. Information goes a long way.

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7)... Repairs are constant.
If the troubles are not maintenance or single item related, some machines are junk from the get-go.

If you are interested in addressing your mechanical Sprinter related problems, it is best to break up your various topics into separate threads and see what the responses are. There is another sub-forum for posting your experiences with dealers - please put in names and specifics. As you mention elsewhere - reputation is can be a powerful force. Most people looking for legal advice on this forum seem not to get well informed responses, but rather lots of others piling on with hyperbole. If you are interested in simply dumping your Sprinter, there is a sub-forum for selling your Sprinter, either in whole or parts.

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