P0101 code and others

shanemac

Active member
Hi, i knew it was just a matter of time, i been searching/reading/scanning posts and wanted to document my journey and notes below. This issue can be a real bitch to resolve especially with no OEM scan tool.
In reality though i myself probably won't proceed very deep into this, might bring it to my local shop(they have a good scanner for these sprinter) and maybe attempt the relearn for the MAF, just don't feel like putting a bunch more money into this thing.

P0100: Mass or volume air flow "A" circuit
P0101 Mass or volume air flow "A" circuit range performance
P0108 Manifold absolute pressure/ barometric pressure circuit high
P0110 Intake air temperature sensor 1 circuit

My generic readings

MAF 2.63 lb/min
MAP 13.6 PSI at idel and 14.2 at 2000 RPM
BARO 10 psi
EGR % stuck at 5%
AAT ambient air temp stuck at 57F
ECT 109F
FRP 3761 psi at idle


This issue happened sudden and with out warning
Not in full limp mode but can drive forward but there is a lack of power, excess sweet smell from exhaust
van does start ok but i can feel and hear extra noise and vibration from engine and exhaust (not normal) My best way to describe it is the van acts like its in regen mode.
I don't' have a nice or expensive scan tool.

New OEM air filter installed
No obvious boost hoses detached or split
No obvious splits on the inter cooler ends
Swapped in a spare cleaned EGR valve i had no change
Linkage behind turbo does move up and down
Swirl valve linkage left and right does move forward and back from what i can see
Turbo inlet gasket from air box is good
New MAF installed figured it was fine but tried one
There is what seems like normal air flow out the tail pipe so DPF and CAT should NOT be plugged solid
Both cats are running at a higher temp than normal
EGR% stuck at 5%
Did a battery disconnect no changes
Cleared codes
Drove van for a while codes still linger
Possible plugged EGR cooler?
Black oily mess drivers side middle to rear of manifold oil cooler leak?
If i hold revs at 2500 rpm i can hear what sounds like a air leak/hiss but could be my imagination thinking turbo boost o rings A 019 997 75 45


From a post There are also micro switches to tell the ECU when the valves are in a closed position and if the ECU is commanding the actuator to open the valves (move the linkages) but does not observe a change in state of the limit switches then it knows something is up and sets a code.
Thinking with the oily mess with mine something could be damaged gummed up.

From doing a search this is issue has occurred with others but not a whole lot of follow ups.

Some interesting things: inlet hose to turbo https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showpost.php?p=726898&postcount=75

I checked mine closer again no splits or cracks

O rings https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12494&highlight=p0101

Description https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showpost.php?p=380276&postcount=18

Good post https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showpost.php?p=595232&postcount=3

Interesting thread https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60215&highlight=p0101

Good Thread post 13 https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67246&highlight=p0101

"it seems like adapting the MAF was the likely solution... but adapting the DPF probably didn't hurt"

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35726 post #27


from a post "I told the shop these things and the next thing they checked was the wire going from the ECU to the MAF. I was told it can be common for one of the contacts to get corroded at the ECU end, which shorts out the MAF and ruins it"
The MAF needs an adaptation when you put in a new one fyi.


differential pressure switch is relatively cheap and it has undergone several changes (updates and revisions) through the generations

A pic of my oily mess


 
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...just don't feel like putting a bunch more money into this thing.
Nobody feels like putting a bunch of money into vehicle repairs, but proper repairs cost what they cost.

As vehicle owners, we have to decide whether to choose to repair our vehicles, or to choose to become pedestrians.

New OEM air filter installed
Why?

Swapped in a spare cleaned EGR valve i had no change
Why?

New MAF installed figured it was fine but tried one
Why?

And is the new MAF sensor a genuine Mercedes-Benz part?

Did a battery disconnect...
Why?

It sounds like you're guessing. Guessing is by far, the most expensive and time-consuming method of vehicle repair. Diagnosis, on the other hand, is the least expensive and quickest method of vehicle repair. I recommend diagnosis.
 
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Deleted member 50714

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With the amount of years, I'd pull the engine and do a comprehensive inspection and repairs, Replace every rubber hose. Multiple codes may be indicative of bad grounds.
 

lindenengineering

Well-known member
With the amount of years, I'd pull the engine and do a comprehensive inspection and repairs, Replace every rubber hose. Multiple codes may be indicative of bad grounds.
Bob
This is a great up sell post!
You have missed your calling as a Dealer Service Writer!
Maybe at one of those fancy schmancy boutique Lambo, Ferrari Maserati dealers over your way.
Think of the Moolah and the Commissions ! Phoor !
Aim High:thumbup::thumbup:
Dennis
 

shanemac

Active member
Did i just get every sprinter mechanic in the forum responding i feel so honored.... Look i said in my post i DO NOT have a OEM scan tool if i did i wouldn't be here. You guys sound like a bunch of trolls.
 
Did i just get every sprinter mechanic in the forum responding i feel so honored....You guys sound like a bunch of trolls.
You're actually receiving the benefit of two of the most successful members in the area of vehicle repair, but you're apparently not able to discern it as such.

One of the first things that I noticed, is that your rather lengthy initial post, does not actually contain any questions. There are two question marks, but the words before them are not sentences.

Look i said in my post i DO NOT have a OEM scan tool if i did i wouldn't be here.
What does you not having an OEM scan tool, have to do with anything? Scan tools don't diagnose anything.

Your hot mess of an initial post, your failure to recognize high-quality assistance, and your preoccupation with scan tools, indicates to me that repairing this vehicle may be beyond your abilities, and in that case I would recommend that you take it to a competent Sprinter technician.
 
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Deleted member 50714

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Everyone's skill level, knowledge, experience, access to tools and equipment vary. The extent of your problems may require access to very tight, not easily accessible areas to work. I don't know what book time for engine R&R is but that might be the best way to go, but only if they have the very best diagnostic equipment and ideally have done numerous Sprinter engine swaps.
 

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