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Old 03-10-2018, 06:24 PM   #11
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And there's a fairly new one on the horizion: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergy

The lone star tick which ranges from the southern U S down to Guatemala can give you mammalian meat allergy or what's referred to as alpha-gal, short for Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose. If bitten by an affected tick, eating meat from a mammal will bring on outbreaks of hives which can quickly progress to full anaphylactic shock.

My tick bite happed in the tropics in Mexico and needless to say I now have a stash of Epi-Pens handy. Fortunately, unlike those allergic to bee venom, I find it rather easy (and healthier) to avoid mammal fat. Poultry, dairy and all forms of seafood are OK.

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Old 03-12-2018, 05:28 PM   #12
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I always check our accommodations for bed bugs before settling in. While on our trip out west I would spritz Permethrin in the area to create a bug moat before we stowed our luggage. Permethrin will keep insects away and kills some. It made me feel better anyway.

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My boss's wife has a tick induced meat Allergy. Thankfully she was half vegetarian anyways, so no major impact on her diet.
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Aaakkkkkk!!! Hurst San Simeon State Beach. Such an incredible hike on the bluffs . Beautiful wildflower, gulls, herons, and elephant seals. Oh, and 34 ticks on the dog and eight on me. Zero on the wife some how . I had fun checking. Gawd I hate ticks,,,,
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Old 12-15-2018, 07:18 AM   #15
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I am starting to realize why ticks are so difficult to get rid of - they are arachnids. Same family as spiders and scorpions , so very difficult to kill.

As a comparison, very few of the insecticides sold in CA will kill spiders, and believe me I have tried. The only effective method that I have found for controlling spiders is to remove their food supply and to keep destroying their webs.

Here is an interesting product called a "tick tube". Basically it goes after ticks when they are at the stage where they like to attach to mice:

https://www.mosquitosquad.com/services/tick-control/
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Another article about growing meat allergy due to Alpha-gal in the British Telegraph paper. (Sorry, it is pay per view). Australian study going on several years now has implications that it may be connected to memory problems like Alzheimer's, etc..
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Another article about growing meat allergy due to Alpha-gal in the British Telegraph paper. (Sorry, it is pay per view). Australian study going on several years now has implications that it may be connected to memory problems like Alzheimer's, etc..
Mayo Clinic free site.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20428608

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-...t-allergy.html

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A bid difference between ticks and other arachnids, is that other arachnids eat insects. Anything that eats mosquitoes is pretty cool in my book! Interestingly, in australia they had tick free zones (usually for cattle). So any cattle coming in had to be sprayed/dipped with insecticide.
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DEET is not really effective as a deterrent for ticks. Permethrin is. The military uses permethrin for insect prevention/control. Some recommend the double whammy use of DEET on the skin, and permethrin on the clothing. Permethrin is not effective for use on skin, and is not recommended for that.[/url]
I'm no expert, but the above appears to be a bit oversimplified, at least according to this:

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Of all the various insect repellents available, DEET has been shown to be the most effective at repelling ticks. “There is pretty good data that DEET works against ticks,” confirms Durland Fish, professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health. Other repellents, including those that contain picaridin, are simply not proven to fend off the blood-suckers. “We’re pretty confident that DEET works,” agrees Dr. Tom Mather, director of the Center for Vector-Borne Disease at the University of Rhode Island and its Tick Encounter Resource Center. “Those other repellents have just not been effectively tested against ticks.”

Kill Ticks: Use Permethrin
DEET may work at repelling ticks, but Mather advises it only as a second line of defense. His top recommendation: Wear tick-repellent clothing treated with permethrin, which kills ticks after only five to 30 seconds of exposure. “Permethrin is dried into your clothes,” Mather explains, “and if you purchase treated clothing or have it commercially treated, it can last 70 washings.” (Insect Shield, which produces its own line of insect-repellent apparel, will treat clothing for $8 to $10 an item.) Alternatively, you can treat clothing yourself, though home treatments last for only about four to five washings, Mather says.
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I'm no expert either.

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I'm no expert, but the above appears to be a bit oversimplified, at least according to this:



https://www.outdoors.org/articles/am...ick-repellents
From your quote.

"DEET may work at repelling ticks, but Mather advises it only as a second line of defense. His top recommendation: Wear tick-repellent clothing treated with permethrin, which kills ticks after only five to 30 seconds of exposure..

I don't see where what I said conflicts.

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DEET is not really effective as a deterrent for ticks. Permethrin is. The military uses permethrin for insect prevention/control. Some recommend the double whammy use of DEET on the skin, and permethrin on the clothing. Permethrin is not effective for use on skin, and is not recommended for that.[/url]
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