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Old 05-16-2016, 06:14 AM   #11
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That my friends is a code pertaining to Nox sensors and ADBlurr efficiency.
Our friends at Autel don't have the info on the system --so refer to the manual get out --BUT what effing manual?
MB have re-hashed to system programming so many times they can't get the intellectual info to tell you.

That's why you have to use a factory style scanner with programming/ re-learn capabilities.
If you pay MB for the info and the scan tool they will happily give it to you!
Its all about the money and Autel haven't yet found a way to pirate it because it keeps changing!
Welcome to the real world NO cheap rides--but there is a butt for every seat and everyone rides in the USA at a price!
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Looks like some good old fashioned civil-action is needed.
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:54 AM   #12
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Well Bob its a case of getting what you pay for!

Its a bit like an electric hand drill for sale at Home Despot.
There will be an array of leccky hand drill as you know, some battery powered, some mains electric powered.

You might select a 3/8th chuck tool which seems just right for your use. Two speeds maybe a reverse feature.
The price point is right so you buy it and use it.

After some time you come to do a job, but you need a 3/4 drill with hammer action to say cut a hole in masonary, or a truck chassis frame.
The drill you bought won't cut it!
You need a professional drill, maybe with magnetic clamp base! Used by those that work in professional trades like construction or a truck factory and is 5 time the price!
At the moment I am thinking of a magnetic 1" broach style drill for cutting holes in truck frame rails at $5000.

The same analogy apples to scan tools!
They are not all created equal and it is up to you the purchaser to know what you want in a scan tool.
Just as with the 3/8 hand drill some tools are fine for small DIY jobs , but sometimes you might have a go at something you have not tried before and need the big Mamma to get it done AND you might need some skill/training in handling a big Mamma!!!

Now as to suing Autel, the big three tried that recently claiming they pirated operating systems. Ford was a big player in this, claiming Autel copied their IDS system.
The situation as an outcome isn't clear but from what I have read Autel cleverly transposed changed the main info onto a different operating/ access system and as such is typically not an infringement of copyright law.
However which ever way you cut it the info on an Autel machine is very good value for money and it works fine in many instances!
BUT it comes up short in some tasks!
This Nox sensor problem scan diagnosis is just one of them---there are others many others-- and not just MB platforms either!!
I am thinking of Volvo now!--New models--- overpriced junk!
MB stuff is better !
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Old 05-16-2016, 12:21 PM   #13
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It says to refer to the service manual. But I can't get a service manual.
You can pay $60 for 24hrs of the manual on Sprintertek. Cha ching
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:01 PM   #14
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You can pay $60 for 24hrs of the manual on Sprintertek. Cha ching
Is that all!!! I think I'll ride my bicycle more cheaper, healthier, no emissions controls...er at least not yet.
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Old 05-16-2016, 10:13 PM   #15
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I think I am going to get one of the systems John Shmitt recommends, as I do not need a subscription for a 2010 van and this will be my last MB product I ever own any ways.
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I think I am going to get one of the systems John Shmitt recommends, as I do not need a subscription for a 2010 van and this will be my last MB product I ever own any ways.
Which system is that? I hope I don't have to buy another car.
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Which system is that? I hope I don't have to buy another car.
This thread. And you do not need a subscription unless you are a shop that is going to repair vehicles newer than yours. Also consider the shop manual is built into the program. I am going to get the all in one package when I decide to get a scan/adaptation system.

http://www.sprinter-source.com/forum...ad.php?t=47046
https://sprinter-source.com/forum/sh...4&postcount=21

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Old 07-30-2016, 03:03 AM   #18
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I just purchased an Autel MD802 to diagnose my 2013. It will read most of the modules but seems unable to access the ABS or ESP module which is what I bought it for. Has anyone tried using it on a vehicle that new? Or alternatively does anyone know how to get the ABS lights to go off after repairing a wheel speed sensor?
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:29 PM   #19
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Have you updated to the latest versions of S/W?

If not, do so, but after copying the original versions on the supplied SD card to somewhere 'safe'.
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I just purchased an Autel MD802 to diagnose my 2013. It will read most of the modules but seems unable to access the ABS or ESP module which is what I bought it for. Has anyone tried using it on a vehicle that new? Or alternatively does anyone know how to get the ABS lights to go off after repairing a wheel speed sensor?
Sometimes some modules in newer vehicles aren't yet covered as the Autel products cover a huge range of models and they give update priority to vehicles that are beyond manufacturer's warranty (since in-warranty vehicles usually end up at a dealer for service anyway.) You have a year's worth of updates included in the price and it's probable that one of those will cover what's missing from your 2013.
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