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Old 09-06-2013, 12:42 AM   #11
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I just finished the HB install yesterday. I just removed the fan with clutch and the serpentine belt. The HB bolt was really hard to break loose, but I had a younger, stronger helper do that. Even though I had the correct HB puller, the HB slid right off. The seal popped out easily. I installed the new seal, I wish I had the proper installation tool, but it went flat and flush. The fun part comes when you torque the HB center bolt. That's 240 FOOT/POUNDS plus 90 degrees. Luckily I had access to a 3/4" torque wrench that was 36" long and the stronger helper. I did have the proper flywheel locking tool which is a must. For anyone that needs the HB puller and flywheel lock tool, I'm trying to figure out a loan system for forum members. Let me know what you think. Send me a PM.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:32 AM   #12
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Is the new HB made different heavier duty or the same as the old one?
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:09 AM   #13
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Is the new HB made different heavier duty or the same as the old one?
It looks exactly the same except for the date of manufacture which was 05/13. I hope they have improved on the quality. I did order it from Berry Dodge, so it should be OEM Mopar. All of the stampings on the 2013 HB looked just like the stampings on the 2005 HB that failed.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:43 PM   #14
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Let me know what you decide on the loan program. My HB does not look bad now but it is getting old so I will keep an eye on it.(2005-2500) Did you have any special tools to get the fan off? Were you able to find a DAD scanner I think we were both looking for one a while back. I ended up buying the OBD-II Scan Tool from Auto Enginuity it seems to work ok I have had no real problems yet so we will see. Thanks for the pictures they were a great help.
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #15
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It isn't necessary to remove the fan unless you are concerned about breaking it maybe but I found there's plenty of clearance with the fan on. How many miles do you have?
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:58 PM   #16
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Let me know what you decide on the loan program. My HB does not look bad now but it is getting old so I will keep an eye on it.(2005-2500) ...
Same situation for me.

Skill3,

Nice of you to consider taking the effort to offer a loan program.

Not that you asked...

Make certain to get a deposit before shipping which will allow you to replace the tools with no cost to you. I'd like to think that people are basically honest, but sh*t happens. vic
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:02 PM   #17
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Let me know what you decide on the loan program. My HB does not look bad now but it is getting old so I will keep an eye on it.(2005-2500) Did you have any special tools to get the fan off? Were you able to find a DAD scanner I think we were both looking for one a while back. I ended up buying the OBD-II Scan Tool from Auto Enginuity it seems to work ok I have had no real problems yet so we will see. Thanks for the pictures they were a great help.
I bought the special tools to remove the fan that the forum member makes and sells. They work great. The other thing I did was to make the fan shroud a two piece unit. Once this is done, access to the fan is much easier. I did a write-up on this in T1N Write-Ups. I did get a DAD unit from another forum member. I'm still trying to figure it out. I'll let you know when I figure out the "loan program".
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:04 PM   #18
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It isn't necessary to remove the fan unless you are concerned about breaking it maybe but I found there's plenty of clearance with the fan on. How many miles do you have?
I removed the fan so I could take advantage off the 3 foot long 3/4" torque wrench. I needed the working room from the top. Using a torque wrench that long from the bottom was very awkward and limited.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:42 PM   #19
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I'm not an expert but I'm not sure shot peening the steel would help since it's the rubber that is seperating.


The service manual says to remove the key from the keyway and reinstall it in the keyway with gease to hold it in place but mine was held in place by the timing gear on the crankshaft. The most difficult part is the 90 degrees after you torque the bolt to 240 ft lbs. I use a square and marked the 90 degrees on the HB pully using the leading edge of my ratchet as a reference point then tightened the bolt the remaining 90deg.

I forgot to mention mine is a 2006 with 171,000 miles without rear air.

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Could you please tell how you removed the Key from the timing gear without removing the timing chain cover?
My 2004 TIN has dual air and it looks like the HB was replaced once before I bought it.
Now after me driving it for less than 4 years I am replacing it again. What can we do to make sure it doesn't fall off again?
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:51 PM   #20
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My Key did not come out, that was the point I was trying to make, the manual says to "align parallel key, fix in place with grease. Turn to ensure the slot is aligned with the parallel key in crankshaft". My key never came out due to the fact that it was still in place with the timing gear.

Did you use an OEM HB or after market. Everone that has posted on here states the Dorman or any other aftermarket are a waste of money and have a high failure rate. I'm sold on OEM parts. If it the original lasted 170,000 why try anything other than OEM. You know they will fit exactly as designed.
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