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Old 01-11-2019, 04:37 AM   #91
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What's the fixation on Sprinter?
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:22 PM   #92
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I expect the Mercedes 2.0 gas engine to burn less gas when idling, as compared to the 3.7 or 3.5 Ford.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:15 AM   #93
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"What about Sprinter 65AMG". LOL. I'd consider it!

Seems only option, perhaps, is to buy the diesel. I had no issues with my other Sprinters - just not fond of diesel!
I have supercharged M113 V8 gasoline engine from 2005 E55AMG completely with transmission and other stuff. If I find some time Next summer i will try play with smal sprinter and this monster. Should be funny drifting project 😂 I even going to lower it
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Diesel power...

I thought I will not pull nothing until I installed hitch just in case...

Now I have 3-4 trips per month with something behind my van...
Pulled it today.
One month ago Had trip with same sprinter on my hitch from Minnesota to New Jersey 1200 miles. I bought it from Copart, put it on central dispatch for get some delivery quotes.. only one guy called me with offer 1800$ for delivery. Was forced do it by my self... 3.0 pulled pretty strong. Sometimes use manual shifting... 65 and sometimes 70 mph.. and my boy is 144wb. And one more thing. My friend performed for my van extra ECM with deleted EGR, MANIFOLD FLAPS, DPF FILTER and modified software. So now I have two ECM with different settings. One modified, second one with completely factory settings. I use factory one sometimes just for recuperate DPF cause my DPF filter still there and working fine .
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:42 PM   #95
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You are correct. Sprinter has prestige and the best fuel economy. If prestige is not important and fuel economy is not number one on your requirements then there are other choices.

As a reference my 2000 lb gas Transit Ecoboost conversion gets 3 mpg less fuel economy than the sold 2000 lb 08 diesel Sprinter conversion. Today at Costco the difference in cost between diesel and gas was 60 cents/gallon. Normally in this area diesel has been around 40 cents/gallon more expensive. With gas no DEF fluid or high scheduled maintenance costs. Those and fuel cost differences tend to level the operating costs. The operating costs of the two vehicles are close enough that I do not know which one is the least expensive to run. Not a big difference either way. There is a considerable difference in performance.
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You are comparing apples with potatoes. More accurate comparison would be between your Transit and same year Sprinter, not an 08. As a reference, the average fuel economy on my 2015 Sprinter is 26 mpg since I bought it a year ago. DEF cost is negligible. If you compare the real operating cost of a sprinter with a transit of the same vintage, you might come to a different conclusion. I did, and that is why I bought the Spritner.

I chose the Sprinter not because of its prestige. On the contrary, I can do without the perceived prestige. I actually looked for a good while for a Freightliner, but couldn't find one, so I ended up buying the Mercedes.
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Dave,

You are comparing apples with potatoes. More accurate comparison would be between your Transit and same year Sprinter, not an 08. As a reference, the average fuel economy on my 2015 Sprinter is 26 mpg since I bought it a year ago. DEF cost is negligible. If you compare the real operating cost of a sprinter with a transit of the same vintage, you might come to a different conclusion. I did, and that is why I bought the Spritner.

I chose the Sprinter not because of its prestige. On the contrary, I can do without the perceived prestige. I actually looked for a good while for a Freightliner, but couldn't find one, so I ended up buying the Mercedes.
The reason there are many different choices in vehicles is because there are a lot different people with different opinions.

I disagree that the 2015 Transit to 2008 Sprinter is not a reasonably accurate comparison. Current Sprinter has the same chassis design, 5 speed transmission and diesel engine. Not a whole lot of change. I am not comparing the Transit to the I4 with a 7 speed transmission. I have not driven that vehicle so do not have an opinion on that combination. The "new" design Sprinter with a real automatic transmission will also not be an accurate comparison. I am sure a proper transmission will be an improvement.

While I am very satisfied with the change from a diesel Sprinter to a gas Transit I do know that others may have a different opinion. As I said that is why there are choices in vehicles.
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Guys, fuel in US pretty cheap... 3-4 mile per gallon more or less not matter.. except if you make 150k per year...
for example i Ukraine ONE LITER DIESEL FUEL COST ONE US DOLLAR(pretty poor quality). average salary on whole county 300-400 PER MONTH... feel the difference...

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Yes and in the poorest European county next door, namely Moldova & Transnistria its almost 4 E a gallon.
That must really hurt!
https://www.mylpg.eu/stations/moldova/prices

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Old 01-14-2019, 04:56 PM   #99
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I was just in Florence Italy, and it was 1.45 Euro's per liter...last week.

Slovenia, 1.20 Euro's per liter.


So expensive other countries too!
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:02 PM   #100
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I was just in Florence Italy, and it was 1.45 Euro's per liter...last week.

Slovenia, 1.20 Euro's per liter.


So expensive other countries too!
Hey italy and Slovenia it’s real EU. Average Salary in Italy I think more 10 times than 300 euros compare with Ukraine... fuel like gold there. If you got chance put full tank it’s SUCSESS!! More gasoline cars converted to LPG due to gas costs...

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