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View Poll Results: Have you modified your engine in any way?
No, my van is plain stock and I like it 170 56.67%
I have just a tune, no other engine mods 37 12.33%
I have a tune and egr delete 29 9.67%
I have a tune and dpf delete 6 2.00%
I have a tune with egr and dpf delete 39 13.00%
I have a tune with other modifications 6 2.00%
No tune, but I do have other engine modifications 13 4.33%
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:56 PM   #471
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Orion, rolling coal is a travesty and I am sorry you had to put up with that.

Every time I watch some weekend truck show with diesels smoking like crazy, it makes me outraged, as it does you, I suspect.

That is completely different from what this specific tune brings to those very few [4 years?] it can be applied to. Their tune does not smoke or roll coal. By now, we all know what it does offer.

Do you actually know that that smoking Sprinter next to you had a GDE tune? I suspect it did not. No one has ever accused a GDE Sprinter of smoking or rolling coal.

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Old 08-12-2019, 01:26 AM   #472
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Orion, rolling coal is a travesty and I am sorry you had to put up with that.

Every time I watch some weekend truck show with diesels smoking like crazy, it makes me outraged, as it does you, I suspect.

That is completely different from what this specific tune brings to those very few [4 years?] it can be applied to. Their tune does not smoke or roll coal. By now, we all know what it does offer.

Do you actually know that that smoking Sprinter next to you had a GDE tune? I suspect it did not. No one has ever accused a GDE Sprinter of smoking or rolling coal.

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An illegal and pollution increasing tune by any other name....

...so no, you nor GDE get a pass here. Nice try (not).....








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Old 08-12-2019, 01:26 PM   #473
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rolling coal is a travesty and I am sorry you had to put up with that.

Has anyone ever seen a ncv3 do this? I doubt a properly functioning sprinter has the ability to do this.



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Orion, thanks for making it absolutely crystal clear what you think about the GDE Eco-tune.
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Every criminal attempts to justify their particular crime of choice.
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And, I comment because.......

.... I didn't appreciate the Cali plated Sprinter that was idling/starting numerous times rolling coal next to me while I was parked at the beach the other day up here.
Pics or it didnt happen.

A sprinter rolling coal....uh-huh...sure...and the gas cap on my Tesla leaks and smell of unburned fuel.

segway

My tuned Van passed smog in April...


but your right, Im a criminal, but so is every single stock GL 350 Bluetec running the same parameters as me

indeed

Id be more concerned with the bonfires at the beach, can you IMAGING how much CO2 they are releasing burning those trees? If we plant 900,000,000 trees and they mature to full potential we will roll back atmospheric c02 levels to pre 1920's levels. And to think, those heathens are still BURNING WOOD FOR FUN???
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I have never seen a Sprinter smoking down the road, or while parking next to me. I suppose it could happen, but it would not be because of the tune. You both know that.

Oh well. Never mind. This discussion should be terminated before it degrades any further into more name calling and opinions reach the point of certain posts calling others criminals for expressing an opinion. We can do better. Peace out.

I have to believe most of the members here are open enough to not feel compelled to lower themselves like these two who have chosen to attack. Why can't we all get along? We all know where that same from.

I am sure even this plea will be subject to attack. Over and out. Of this thread.
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Like I said, every criminal attempts to justify their particular crime of choice:

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Pics or it didnt happen.

A sprinter rolling coal....uh-huh...sure...and the gas cap on my Tesla leaks and smell of unburned fuel.

segway

My tuned Van passed smog in April...


but your right, Im a criminal, but so is every single stock GL 350 Bluetec running the same parameters as me

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Hmmm, yesss, very interesting, yes yes, very interesting indeed. Good point, good point, very deep....



All of my emissions hardware is in place including DPF, EGR, aftertreatment system, catalytic converters etc. My van passes smog. I get 28% better mileage than I used to, meaning I go 28% further on the same amount of fuel. Im running the same power levels as other MB products with the same engine.

Tell me how I am hurting the environment...annndddd GO:

If you can state a clear technical case without any assumptions or logical fallacies I will take the tune off of my van and join you in your crusade.

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Hmmm, yesss, very interesting, yes yes, very interesting indeed. Good point, good point, very deep....



All of my emissions hardware is in place including DPF, EGR, aftertreatment system, catalytic converters etc. My van passes smog. I get 28% better mileage than I used to, meaning I go 28% further on the same amount of fuel. Im running the same power levels as other MB products with the same engine.

Tell me how I am hurting the environment...annndddd GO:

If you can state a clear technical case without any assumptions or logical fallacies I will take the tune off of my van and join you in your crusade.
Refresh my memory....


.... which tune do you have and which state do you live in?
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