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Old 04-23-2019, 01:49 PM   #1
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I appreciate this is primarily a North American forum but there are a few interlopers here So:

Anyone interested in joining us?

Still a vauge/flexible plan.
Spring 2020 with a group of a few other like minded people. It's a guided tour (So there is a cost of around £400/ week. I have no financial interest in this, some friends are leading the trip. They've been on the toad for 5 plus years so know the score when it comes to border crossings, visa's or places to avoid etc.)
Nothing too fixed in stone yet.
Leave Mid Jan from Spain to Morocco. From there head straight to Mauritania, not too quickly though. Begining of Feb into Mauirtania for 2 weeks. Counties to visit after that Mali, South Senegal, Guinea Bissau, Guinea Conakry, Burkina Faso, Ivory Coast, Togo and Ghana. The plan is around 3 weeks in each country, but this is flexible. Little side excusions on the way too. Camping (When Available!!!) or we wild camp. Or Church Missions, gardens of Hotels etc. It's possible to arrange shipping back from Togo and fly back if time is an issue.
We need to be back in the UK for mid April so we may store the van somewhere safe and fly back from The Gambia as there are loads of nice easy and relatively cheap flights available.
This isn't a full on off road wacky races trip!! It's a nice and steady overland trip.
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Old 04-25-2019, 04:08 AM   #2
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I've done self-guided tips in East Africa and Southern Africa in rental 4x4's, so this sounds pretty interesting. Is this a 4x4 trip, trucks, buses or what?
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:26 AM   #3
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I've done self-guided tips in East Africa and Southern Africa in rental 4x4's, so this sounds pretty interesting. Is this a 4x4 trip, trucks, buses or what?
It's in your own vehicle. Sorry I've just re read my original post and that's not very clear.

4x4 needed but it's not extreme off road stuff.
We're in our Sprinter and 2 others in Toyota Troopie's. Max 5 vehicles in the group I'd say.
It will probably be a 3 month trip but longer would be better, need to be back for our sons wedding mid April though.
It may be possible to rent but I think that gets difficult when you're crossing borders.

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Old 04-25-2019, 01:53 PM   #4
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I'll pass.

She's lucky.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/america...ari-in-uganda/
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Old 04-25-2019, 03:34 PM   #5
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Bob you should go!
Always remember a very influential AMERICAN writer who wrote :-

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

Worthy of contemplation !
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It's in your own vehicle. Sorry I've just re read my original post and that's not very clear.

4x4 needed but it's not extreme off road stuff.
We're in our Sprinter and 2 others in Toyota Troopie's. Max 5 vehicles in the group I'd say.
It will probably be a 3 month trip but longer would be better, need to be back for our sons wedding mid April though.
It may be possible to rent but I think that gets difficult when you're crossing borders.
So you're shipping your Sprinter to Africa? Man, this really sounds incredible. Is this being organized by people who are familiar with the route and can speak to the safety of these places?

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Note that Uganda wasn't on this list. Africa is a continent with many countries. Lumping them all together is like lumping Mexico in with the US when talking about North America. I've self-driven extensively in six African countries and never had any issues. And that was in a solo vehicle. With a caravan you'd be exponentially safer. On the other hand, I will admit I've never even heard of half of the places this tour covers.
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:09 PM   #7
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So you're shipping your Sprinter to Africa? Man, this really sounds incredible. Is this being organized by people who are familiar with the route and can speak to the safety of these places?

It's easy for us. Southern Spain and then a 2hr ferry crossing to Tangier Med. Port Morocco. If you wish you can then get to southern Morocco in a day using very good motorway/toll roads. But why not take a week or so
Our friends who are leading the trip more or less live full time in Africa. Predominantly the west coast. So yes they are well aware of certain border crossings to avoid etc.





Note that Uganda wasn't on this list. Africa is a continent with many countries. Lumping them all together is like lumping Mexico in with the US when talking about North America. I've self-driven extensively in six African countries and never had any issues. And that was in a solo vehicle. With a caravan you'd be exponentially safer. On the other hand, I will admit I've never even heard of half of the places this tour covers.
Spot on
Zero worries on that front. Apart from half hearted pestering/scams (in relative terms we're multi millionaires)the people are incredibly warm and welcoming. Far safer than any large North American or European city imho
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This all sounds really good. I'm interested, but I have a few hurdles to overcome before I commit, not the least of which I don't have my Sprinter yet. It's due to arrive late this summer. Of course you'll probably have filled the spot before then, but maybe I can join this group on a future tour.
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Bob you should go!
Always remember a very influential AMERICAN writer who wrote :-

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

Worthy of contemplation !
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Hell no, I'll stay on my own turf. I wouldn't be able to sleep a wink.
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:52 PM   #10
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Any room for a fellow sprinter van enthusiast to join you without a van there? I am always looking for another bucket list item to add while I am still relatively in good enough shape to hike around and be mobile.

I recently watched a history of the Dakar race from Paris to Dakar and there seemed to be an alternative in the making that might bring this race back from South America.

The last Dakar was, in my opinion, focused too much on running in deep sand dunes, to the point of becoming repetitive. Holding the entire race in Peru was also a factor that bugged me.

Crossing national borders has always been a part of this longstanding endurance race until this past year.

Here is to a great trip whenever it happens. I will be looking forward to your reports as they come in. Thanks for sharing to all here.
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