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Patrick walsh 09-28-2019 01:25 AM

New 2019 4x4
 
Hi all,

I should introduce myself.

My name is patrick, i live just outside Boston. Iím a custom cabinet maker by trade and plan to completely do up my new van. It will be overtime as and not right away as I donít do anything half way so I assume itís gong to cost me the price of a few black market organs.

Iíll get started come spring time.

Till then Iím trying to figure out the exact bolt pattern and offset of the wheels on the 2019 4x4 as I have brand new 285/75/16 Duratracs on my outgoing vehicle. They are on procomp 6089 and they have a six bolt pattern and I believe a 130mm offset.

Itís gonna be pushing it to stuff these tires on the vehicle factory stock. At the least I want to save them for post fox 2Ē lift. If the rims have he same bolt pattern though Iíd like to swap them out now if I can. If not then new rims and shocks come spring.

I got my van pretty loaded 10.25 MBUX. Someone told me anything over 265/75/16 will screw with my adaptive cruise and navigation system.

Can anybody help me with the above two questions?

I hope to have some fun around here now that I own this van.

mdbrown 09-28-2019 06:47 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Probably don't have 130mm offset. Offset is the measurement from mounting surface to the middle of the rim. I think you're referring to the 6x130mm bolt pattern, and that is correct. Stock offset is somewhere around 58-62mm, depending on which stock rim you got, steel or alloy. Aftermarket offset is usually in the 50s to the 30s, the 30s sticking further out. From everything I've read, 285s will not fit a stock 4x4, and 285/75s are pushing 33", and I've read the same as you with respect to tires above 32-point-something causing GPS-related problems. I'm in the same boat as you, but waiting on my van to arrive in about a week. I keep looking here regularly to try to gain some wisdom from other people's experiences, but it looks like maybe there just aren't that many 2019s yet getting major suspension upgrades.

Patrick walsh 09-28-2019 09:27 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Congrats on the new van.

I fell into this whole thing very last minute and pretty much by mistake.

I had been needing a new vehicle and on the fence between a pickup and van.

Pretty much I had come down to the choices knowing the van was the best for me as a contractor but least attractive as a daily driver.

Out of left field my employer told me he was closing shop but wanted to sub contact me his work moving forward. Who knows what that will look like but to date he has had piles and piles of work. He can’t seem to turn a profit though so who is to say I can with him subcontracting me the work. The other option is go get a job in another shop or doing finish work and honestly neither is attractive to me.

Point being I had to rush out and take a loan while I had a verifiable source of income. I sure as heck didn’t see myself spending $60 plus on a vehicle but you know I just couldn’t get myself to buy a transit. If I did purchase something other than a sprinter it was going to be a Tacoma TRD Pro. That vehicle being $40K vrs $60 but leaving me limited as a cabinet maker.

So here I am. My intent as a cabinet maker is to find a nitche within the outfitter community to supplement making Uber high end kitchens, built ins, libraries along with occasion retail and institutional fixtures and displays using my own van as a showpiece. You know get out and travel so people see it, go to the expos so forth and so on.

For now I just want to get the terrible stock tires off the vehicle. I must say the van drives a dream and I couldn’t be more happy with my purchase other than it having had been a 170” that I could not source in 4x4 on the fly.

I wish I knew exactly what it meant when it was suggested anything over 32” will interfere with the nav and active cruise. Specifically because you know if even after I put the 2” Van Compass lift on I still can’t run the 275/85/16 tires I have from my old truck I might as well forgo the headache of swapping out tires before donating the vehicle and just buy new 265/75/16’s and be done with it.

I will be very very disappointed if I can’t run at least 33’s though. The van is gonna be very wimpy on 32’s..

I guess we get to be pioneers lol...



Quote:

Originally Posted by mdbrown (Post 810309)
Probably don't have 130mm offset. Offset is the measurement from mounting surface to the middle of the rim. I think you're referring to the 6x130mm bolt pattern, and that is correct. Stock offset is somewhere around 58-62mm, depending on which stock rim you got, steel or alloy. Aftermarket offset is usually in the 50s to the 30s, the 30s sticking further out. From everything I've read, 285s will not fit a stock 4x4, and 285/75s are pushing 33", and I've read the same as you with respect to tires above 32-point-something causing GPS-related problems. I'm in the same boat as you, but waiting on my van to arrive in about a week. I keep looking here regularly to try to gain some wisdom from other people's experiences, but it looks like maybe there just aren't that many 2019s yet getting major suspension upgrades.


grantwilson 09-30-2019 05:30 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
iit takes considerable amount of trimming to fit on a stock vs30 with no lift for a 285/75-16 and not rub at all
I have the agile fender clearance panels and it helps a good bit.

There is no need to be a pioneer.
It wont work on the active nav because there is a GPS speed sensor and wheel speed sensor. with the 33" it is too far out of sync to be in limits and wont let you doit

Patrick walsh 10-01-2019 03:59 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Grant thanks for responding,

Now Iím really confused. I called up the service department where I purchased my van today. They have two full time sprinter techs on hand at all times.

I was told as stated here that 265/75/16 was the biggest I could go without having issues. I was however told that if I wanted to go bigger I could but that they would have to do some reprogramming so that everything would work. I was quoted one hour of labor to do the reprogramming.

They also requested they mount and balance the new tires onto the rims.

Has anyone else been told such by a dealer. Iím inclined to to think they would not suggest doing all this unless they knew they could.

But you know Iíd also be surprised to find out Iím the first one to figure this out with the dealer.

So what say you?




Quote:

Originally Posted by grantwilson (Post 810816)
iit takes considerable amount of trimming to fit on a stock vs30 with no lift for a 285/75-16 and not rub at all
I have the agile fender clearance panels and it helps a good bit.

There is no need to be a pioneer.
It wont work on the active nav because there is a GPS speed sensor and wheel speed sensor. with the 33" it is too far out of sync to be in limits and wont let you doit


DevilSprinter 10-01-2019 04:20 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Would be cool if they did! Let us know!

sanomechanic 10-01-2019 03:34 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 810987)
Grant thanks for responding,

Now I’m really confused. I called up the service department where I purchased my van today. They have two full time sprinter techs on hand at all times.

I was told as stated here that 265/75/16 was the biggest I could go without having issues.

One thing to be careful of with these New Sprinters. If anything fails or has issues from Transmissions to suspension to whatever MB can blame on alterations... Your warranty in that particular area my be voided. If work was performed by dealer then no worries.

Through my 35 plus years working for Toyota, Lexus, Honda and Acura. I have witness many warranty claims denied due to installation of certain aftermarket applications. Including certain over sized and or extreme offset wheel and tire packages.

For instance...Put a lift kit and go 4 sizes up on tires then your wheel bearings start growling, transmission fails or propeller shafts start going bad. Doubt very seriously MB will repair it under warranty

430 hp 70 10-01-2019 06:22 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanomechanic (Post 811094)
One thing to be careful of with these New Sprinters. If anything fails or has issues from Transmissions to suspension to whatever MB can blame on alterations... Your warranty in that particular area my be voided. If work was performed by dealer then no worries.

Through my 35 plus years working for Toyota, Lexus, Honda and Acura. I have witness many warranty claims denied due to installation of certain aftermarket applications. Including certain over sized and or extreme offset wheel and tire packages.

For instance...Put a lift kit and go 4 sizes up on tires then your wheel bearings start growling, transmission fails or propeller shafts start going bad. Doubt very seriously MB will repair it under warranty

Not totally disagreeing, but GM agreed to rebuild transmissions under warranty in both the wifes yukon with a ecm/tcm tune and my silverado with larger tires and tune. I say agreed because we ended up having the dealer replace the wife's transmission instead of rebuilding after the extended warranty company agreed to pay for it.

I can't say i wasn't worried, but no questions asked by either dealer. Both also failed for different reasons. I'm pretty positive the wifes was a torque converter and i know mine had a retraining ring fail.

sanomechanic 10-01-2019 07:08 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 430 hp 70 (Post 811167)
Not totally disagreeing, but GM agreed to rebuild transmissions under warranty in both the wifes yukon with a ecm/tcm tune and my silverado with larger tires and tune. I say agreed because we ended up having the dealer replace the wife's transmission instead of rebuilding after the extended warranty company agreed to pay for it.

I can't say i wasn't worried, but no questions asked by either dealer. Both also failed for different reasons. I'm pretty positive the wifes was a torque converter and i know mine had a retraining ring fail.

Just over sized probably not. But going large and altering vehicle to make fit. That is a different story. Some dealers need the work and money and will turn a blind eye. But...a MB Sprinter. Not a GM or Ford product. They have a high transmission failure rate anyhow.

Like I said...MB will look for ANY reason to decline honoring a warranty.

430 hp 70 10-01-2019 07:18 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanomechanic (Post 811185)
Just over sized probably not. But going large and altering vehicle to make fit. That is a different story. Some dealers need the work and money and will turn a blind eye. But...a MB Sprinter. Not a GM or Ford product. They have a high transmission failure rate anyhow.

Like I said...MB will look for ANY reason to decline honoring a warranty.


It is lifted, but I get your point. It's unfortunate if MB is denying claims for something like that.

Patrick walsh 10-02-2019 01:37 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
It’s only natural the conversation would turn towards warranty.

Funny thing, well not funny probably. But I mentioned the potential for issues with with my adaptive cruise and my nav when buying the vehicle.

I mentioned and made clear why I was buying 4x4 and that I intended to turn the vehicle into a camper off road beast. We talked about this kinda at length when he tried to sell me the standard extended warranty.

His response “and yes I get he is a sales man trying to make a sale” was specifically and exactly. Well you know we have plenty of people come in with sprinters with the fox shocks and big wheels and all kinds of modifications and it has never been a issue. He followed I immediately by saying that in Europe the sprinters are used for everything from ambulances to search and rescue vehicles and it common for them to be heavily modified, stating they can take it and that they are built to take it.

I’m always suspicious I kinda pretty much trust nobody but my darn mother. But this guy was the least salesman type personality I have ever come across. And you know oddly enough my mother is in high tech sales lol..

Hmm,

Anyway maybe I’d be happy with 265/75/16 and no lift but I doubt it. I hate to spend the $$ on small tires to put them on then go they still look like my grandfathers van.

On the flip side loosing a warranty on a $63K van that is crazy expensive to service nevermind repair well that doesn’t sound fun either.

All this makes me wonder then who are these people whom can afford to build out or buy these $100k plus rigs and have zero warranty..

John E 10-02-2019 02:02 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Congrats on the purchase and congrats (I think) on your new self-employment. Which dealer did you buy from? I've been talking to a few about 2019's.

Patrick walsh 10-02-2019 02:54 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Thanks and thanks.

We can only wait and see how both ventures develop.

I purchased at MB of Burlington.

Are you local to Boston..

My salesperson was exceptional.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John E (Post 811307)
Congrats on the purchase and congrats (I think) on your new self-employment. Which dealer did you buy from? I've been talking to a few about 2019's.


John E 10-02-2019 03:05 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 811318)
Thanks and thanks.

We can only wait and see how both ventures develop.

I purchased at MB of Burlington.

Are you local to Boston..

My salesperson was exceptional.

I'm 25 miles west of Boston right off 495. You must have dealt with Dave at MB Burlington? I was working with him earlier this year on one, but the timing wasn't right. And he was very helpful and knowledgeable. I'm also in construction. Electrical and building contracting.

Patrick walsh 10-02-2019 03:58 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Yes it was Dave,

I work out of stow. Pretty close to where you describe.

Most of my family is from Hudson. I live in Natick.

Iím moving the van. I must have gotten old. If someone ever told me I would be so excited or be so impressed by Van I woulda told them thy were nuts..



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Quote:

Originally Posted by John E (Post 811324)
I'm 25 miles west of Boston right off 495. You must have dealt with Dave at MB Burlington? I was working with him earlier this year on one, but the timing wasn't right. And he was very helpful and knowledgeable. I'm also in construction. Electrical and building contracting.


John E 10-02-2019 04:43 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
I'm in Milford. My van is strictly for contracting work, but it is set up very well. I built the shelving to fit certain drawer units, and is generally kept spotless. (for a contractor). I found this place in '08 when I bought my first sprinter and am getting re-acquainted in the past 2 years since I bought my current van. A ton of knowledge here. Looking forward to seeing your build.

Retired In Motion 10-02-2019 02:53 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act provides consumers with a lot of protections, including the ability to add aftermarket parts and do our own maintenance. If your warranty is denied because of modifications to the vehicle, remember that the dealer must show that the failure was caused by the modification. Here is some information from the FTC which enforces the Act (https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/article...ne-maintenance).

Do I have to use the dealer for repairs and maintenance to keep my warranty in effect?

No. An independent mechanic, a retail chain shop, or even you yourself can do routine maintenance and repairs on your vehicle. In fact, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which is enforced by the FTC, makes it illegal for manufacturers or dealers to claim that your warranty is void or to deny coverage under your warranty simply because someone other than the dealer did the work. The manufacturer or dealer can, however, require consumers to use select repair facilities if the repair services are provided to consumers free of charge under the warranty.

That said, there may be certain situations where a repair may not be covered. For example, if you or your mechanic replaced a belt improperly and your engine is damaged as a result, your manufacturer or dealer may deny responsibility for fixing the engine under the warranty. However, according to the FTC, the manufacturer or dealer must be able to demonstrate that it was the improper belt replacement ó rather than some other defect ó that caused the damage to your engine. The warranty would still be in effect for other parts of your car.

Will using 'aftermarket' or recycled parts void my warranty?

No. An 'aftermarket' part is a part made by a company other than the vehicle manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer. A 'recycled' part is a part that was made for and installed in a new vehicle by the manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer, and later removed from the vehicle and made available for resale or reuse. Simply using an aftermarket or recycled part does not void your warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket or recycled part. The manufacturer or dealer can, however, require consumers to use select parts if those parts are provided to consumers free of charge under the warranty.

Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage.

Tips To Avoid Warranty Issues

Here's how to get the most out of your vehicle's warranty:

Read your warranty. Often bundled with your owner's manual, the warranty gives a general description and specific details about your coverage. If you have misplaced your owner's manual, look for it online. Check the "Owners" section of your manufacturer's website.
Be aware of your warranty period. If problems arise that are covered under the warranty, get them checked out before the warranty expires.

Service your car at regular intervals. This is a good idea in any case. But for the sake of keeping your warranty intact, follow the manufacturer's recommended service schedule. Details are in your owner's manual.

Keep all service records and receipts, regardless of who performs the service. This includes oil changes, tire rotations, belt replacement, new brake pads, and inspections. Create a file to keep track of repairs; it will come in handy if you have to use your warranty. If you ever have a warranty claim and it appears that you did not maintain your vehicle, your claim could be denied.

Complain. If you think a dealer's service advisor denied your warranty claim unfairly, ask to speak with a supervisor. If you still aren't satisfied, contact the manufacturer or go to another dealer. You also may wish to file a complaint with your state Attorney General, local consumer protection office, or the FTC.

sanomechanic 10-02-2019 07:01 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Things I have first hand knowledge of, are steering rack and pinions declined after lifts due extreme angle changes of tie rods binding the rack. Have a $4000 Rack fail after a lift and see if MB replaces it under warranty... Propeller shafts declined from spider joint failures due to excessive angle changes during lifts. Transmission tail housing bushing failures sending metal in transmission from propeller shaft angle changes. Control arm bushings blowing out prematurely, Ball joints, inner and outer tie rods ends. Catalytic converters.... The List goes on and on of things I witnessed declined due to altering the engineering of Toyota's Lexus Honda and Acura's. Most of these aftermarket parts out there have very little engineering nor The R&D of original equipment.
There are good AM applications and they cost big $$$ but most of that crap is junk and will fail or not perform with in a year of 2 of installation. I have removed and tossed so much of that MADE IN CHINA garbage away over the years.

grantwilson 10-02-2019 09:56 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 810987)
Grant thanks for responding,

Now Iím really confused. I called up the service department where I purchased my van today. They have two full time sprinter techs on hand at all times.

I was told as stated here that 265/75/16 was the biggest I could go without having issues. I was however told that if I wanted to go bigger I could but that they would have to do some reprogramming so that everything would work. I was quoted one hour of labor to do the reprogramming.

They also requested they mount and balance the new tires onto the rims.

Has anyone else been told such by a dealer. Iím inclined to to think they would not suggest doing all this unless they knew they could.

But you know Iíd also be surprised to find out Iím the first one to figure this out with the dealer.

So what say you?

let me know when you rub everything lol.


If they can in fact reprogram thats cool. the NCV3 you cannot

Patrick walsh 10-03-2019 02:42 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Itís funny you should mention the above.

So I finally gave up on my last vehicle ďNissan FrontierĒ after the steering rack went. A wheel bearing went maybe a couple months before that.

All and not to bad with 100K on it and a hard 100K at that. I had a 3: lift on that vehicle obtained with spacers and different upper control arms and extended ti-rod ends. The rear was just blocks under the leaf springs. A total hack lift but you know I like 50-70k out of that lift before the problems started to surface. Could it have been stuff that would had surfaced anyway I really donít know.

But you know I spend $18k on that truck 1 year old with 18k miles on it. So a bit more easy to throw that car away at 100k when the issues stared thank a $63k sprinter Iíll assume.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanomechanic (Post 811508)
Things I have first hand knowledge of, are steering rack and pinions declined after lifts due extreme angle changes of tie rods binding the rack. Have a $4000 Rack fail after a lift and see if MB replaces it under warranty... Propeller shafts declined from spider joint failures due to excessive angle changes during lifts. Transmission tail housing bushing failures sending metal in transmission from propeller shaft angle changes. Control arm bushings blowing out prematurely, Ball joints, inner and outer tie rods ends. Catalytic converters.... The List goes on and on of things I witnessed declined due to altering the engineering of Toyota's Lexus Honda and Acura's. Most of these aftermarket parts out there have very little engineering nor The R&D of original equipment.
There are good AM applications and they cost big $$$ but most of that crap is junk and will fail or not perform with in a year of 2 of installation. I have removed and tossed so much of that MADE IN CHINA garbage away over the years.


Patrick walsh 10-03-2019 02:49 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Grant I trust your right about the rubbing. Why would you lie. On the other hand unless I misunderstand it seems I can find people whom claim very light heat gun work of the inner feeders who are running 285/755/16.

But you know this is the Internet and they could be miscommunicating or I could be misunderstanding.

Can I ask you about a van o see on your site,Instagram and FB. Itís the pebble grey 2019. It has stock wheels on it and what looks like 33ís on it. I think it now is all done up with a massive all metal front bumper but I donít know. Can I ask in those early pic with the stock rims and what looks like 33ís. What size are those tires, did they rub and if so what did you have to do to get everything working. I really really liked that look. Itís pretty much exactly what I want to replicate.



Can I ask .
Quote:

Originally Posted by grantwilson (Post 811577)
let me know when you rub everything lol.


If they can in fact reprogram thats cool. the NCV3 you cannot


sanomechanic 10-03-2019 02:50 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 811652)
Itís funny you should mention the above.

So I finally gave up on my last vehicle ďNissan FrontierĒ after the steering rack went. A wheel bearing went maybe a couple months before that.

All and not to bad with 100K on it

That same Frontier would have probably gone over 200k if left alone.

Patrick walsh 10-03-2019 03:51 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
I do agree.

On the flip side I only drive like 8-10k miles a year. I also have no garage so at about ten years my vehicles begin to rust. Plus I just destroy everything as Iím a working man.

On the other hand i plan to take new the sprinter across the country 2-3 times a year for a month at a time. I imagine Iíll be doing way more than 10k a year. Iím also pretty sure Iím gonna have a good $20-30k minimum into this build and Iíll probably want it to last me as long as I can get it to last..

With that said the 2Ē lift and 33ís is probably not the best idea. Who knows though I hope to find out different.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sanomechanic (Post 811657)
That same Frontier would have probably gone over 200k if left alone.


John E 10-05-2019 02:00 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 811673)
I do agree.

On the flip side I only drive like 8-10k miles a year. I also have no garage so at about ten years my vehicles begin to rust. Plus I just destroy everything as Iím a working man.

On the other hand i plan to take new the sprinter across the country 2-3 times a year for a month at a time. I imagine Iíll be doing way more than 10k a year. Iím also pretty sure Iím gonna have a good $20-30k minimum into this build and Iíll probably want it to last me as long as I can get it to last..

With that said the 2Ē lift and 33ís is probably not the best idea. Who knows though I hope to find out different.

With proper maintenance, this Sprinter will last you 300K miles or more.

grantwilson 10-05-2019 06:44 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick walsh (Post 811656)
Grant I trust your right about the rubbing. Why would you lie. On the other hand unless I misunderstand it seems I can find people whom claim very light heat gun work of the inner feeders who are running 285/755/16.

But you know this is the Internet and they could be miscommunicating or I could be misunderstanding.

Can I ask you about a van o see on your site,Instagram and FB. Itís the pebble grey 2019. It has stock wheels on it and what looks like 33ís on it. I think it now is all done up with a massive all metal front bumper but I donít know. Can I ask in those early pic with the stock rims and what looks like 33ís. What size are those tires, did they rub and if so what did you have to do to get everything working. I really really liked that look. Itís pretty much exactly what I want to replicate.



Can I ask .

I have a 2019
285/75-16

it rubs
alot
took alot of trimming

rubbed even more with my new wheels

And i have the Agile fender skirt

Patrick walsh 10-06-2019 03:21 AM

Re: New 2019 4x
 
Hmmm, Grant that is very very useful information and Iím appreciative you took the time to share it.

My van in back at the dealer to have a small scratch paired that was there the day I took delivery. My intention has been to have them mount, balance and then reprogram the van to accept the new tires without screwing my nav and cruise.

But you know being told the 285ís will not fit I opted to not pay them to mount and program tires that will never work.

So I have a conundrum. I can put the van up on jacks and haul the tires and rims myself to a tires shop then remount and trim and melt as needed. Or I can run the dam 265ís.

My fear is two fold. Iím afraid Iím just gonna be so disappointed with the look of 265ís. My second fear is to fit 285ís Iím gonna have to hack my new van beyond what I consider wise.

My previous Frontier I ran without front wheel well liners for a good five years. It destroyed my engine bay and all the components. I got lucky and nothing ever failed as a result but one look under the hood and it was shameful knowing the mess I had made cuz I wanted big tires. The salt up here in New England destroys everything. I promised myself I would never do such a thing again..

Years ago I had a M3 on adjustable coil overs. Again those things siezed right up in a couple New England winters.

I have always wanted a Tacoma with a long travel kit but knowing is coil overs and all kinds of bushings without covers I could never justify throwing that kind of money to something I would have to constantly maintain and repair.

Onto this van and I want it all done up with every exterior bolt on Roam has to offer including those beadlock rims. Add the van compass suspension a winch and I can come up with a 20k is number and I have done nothing to the interior. At such a point Iím $83K into this. If I have 265ís with all the above Iíll forever and always feel like I didnít get what I wanted. But you know if I drop $83k on a van then itís a maintenance nightmare and money pit Iíll kick myself in the ass.

After all I really am a working man that has no place driving a $63k anything nevermind $100k. But you know I ignore those voices and just bust ass and work 80hr weeks for 3-10 years at a clip.

So with all that what the heíll do I do about these dam tires...



Quote:

Originally Posted by grantwilson (Post 812321)
I have a 2019
285/75-16

it rubs
alot
took alot of trimming

rubbed even more with my new wheels

And i have the Agile fender skirt


keepmoving 10-08-2019 10:40 PM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
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We have a fender trimming kit coming soon to make the trimming easier and to re-attach the mud flaps. Cut the wheel archs and properly re-attach the mud flaps so it looks stock to the untrained eye. If you don't have cruise control with distronic and GPS you can make 35s fit with our lift kit and trimming.

Click here - https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/08...T-V1.0.pdf?220

:cheers:

Patrick walsh 10-09-2019 02:34 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
So I had a couple good conversations today about this this topic.

First was with the dealer when I picked up my van for the minor paint repair.

So over he phone I was told they could, and would reprogram my van to accept larger tires. Today I was told the same old 265/75/16 story. I was also told anything larger would compromise the transmission and I think the rear end or front diff. I want paying attention after they said 265/75/16 as I was pissed I was told otherwise just two days ago.

Then I spoke with Agile. I found them very helpful and very informative. What I learnt there was with a 1.5 comfort package I could for 275/70/17 or something like that. Honestly I donít want anything larger than 33Ē but I do want a true 33Ē. Agile explained in depth the sensors so forth and so on to me how they work, what happens if you just run a bigger wheel tires combo so forth and so on.

In the end I was left feeling like ďman I guess Iím just gonna have to love with the 265/75/16. But you know Iíll just hate my van as when I get a idea in my head I just gotta follow through. So I guess Iíll do some kind of lift, the flaps and not go over the 275/70/17 or whatever. Agile suggested to me this size really does look nice on the vehicle.

The other option is just say goodby to adaptive cruise and navigation. But you know that seems stupid being I payed big bucks to have it and they are both very nice features.

Somfor the mot part Iím back to being bummed!

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Originally Posted by keepmoving (Post 813350)
We have a fender trimming kit coming soon to make the trimming easier and to re-attach the mud flaps. Cut the wheel archs and properly re-attach the mud flaps so it looks stock to the untrained eye. If you don't have cruise control with distronic and GPS you can make 35s fit with our lift kit and trimming.

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John E 10-09-2019 02:50 AM

Re: New 2019 4x4
 
I don't think the dealers have as much insight as the select individuals here that already have experienced these issues. You will likely have to live with the advice the techs give you, or, inform them otherwise, and hope whatever you do will maintain your warranty. I don't envy your position. Good luck and definitely keep us posted.


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