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GMAN_867 05-20-2019 04:02 PM

Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
First time post guys! Lots of great information here so I thought I'd ask before I buy. I'm about to purchase a 2018 4x4 144 Passenger van (20K miles, heavily optioned) that is partially converted. Before I buy I wanted to ask the experts on this forum if I should be concerned about continuing the build. My primary concerns are the the rear side windows and the OEM AC unit mounted on the roof. Do the windows complicate adding flares? I'm 6'1 and want to be able to sleep across the width of the van. Also not sure about the roof mounted AC unit as I never see those on converted vans. Looks like it leaves a huge hole if removed but maybe it's actually good to have. What do you guys think? Do the windows and AC unit limit my conversion options? Bottom line question is should I go for it and work with it as is or should I wait and find a crew or cargo version. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts.

GSWatson 05-20-2019 05:04 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
I’m converting a 2015 right now. AFAIK, the flares fit in the exact position as the windows, so that shouldn’t complicate anything.

I removed the roof AC; you will need to find out if you have a second compressor or if it runs off the main one. Either way, take it to an AC shop to have the refrigerant drained, and then remedy what needs to be done (ie, lines capped with a single compressor).

Forum member Hein sells an aluminum plate to cover the holes left by the AC - you can choose from a complete block, a home for a MaxxAir, or a larger opening Hehr sunroof. It’s a pretty straightforward process.

You can sell the roof AC; there’s usually someone out there who has inadvertently hit a low-hanging garage and needs a replacement...

Pics of hole after AC removal and with plate for MaxxAir-

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Cheers,
Greg

Montucky 05-20-2019 06:08 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
Lucky you - You're going to miss out on cutting open the sides of the van for the flares! You get some good things w/ the passenger version that makes a crew guy like me jealous - all of your seat mount points are exposed and ready to go, and you get some nice trim parts on the d pillars that will make finishing easier.

Good luck w/ the choice!

GSWatson 05-20-2019 06:14 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
And, if you have the ‘emergency exit window.’, it pops out with 7 screws and the CRL window pops right in. About a 2 hour job at most.


Cheers,
Greg

flyag1 05-20-2019 06:21 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GSWatson (Post 769669)
And, if you have the ‘emergency exit window.’, it pops out with 7 screws and the CRL window pops right in. About a 2 hour job at most.


Cheers,
Greg

Or do like we do: us the emergency window as a full on Awning.

GSWatson 05-20-2019 08:02 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyag1 (Post 769674)
Or do like we do: us the emergency window as a full on Awning.



How has that plastic hinge held up with repeated openings? The one I removed didn’t look too sturdy...


Cheers,
Greg

flyag1 05-20-2019 08:25 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GSWatson (Post 769698)
How has that plastic hinge held up with repeated openings? The one I removed didn’t look too sturdy...


Cheers,
Greg

Hey Greg,

Actually quite well. We have built up 2 rigs that had the emergency window and used both for ventilation all the time. The idea was if it failed we would replace it with a slider, but after have had 2 different vans they just keep on working. Once we boon-docking and forgot to close the window when abandoning camp. Drove with the window propped open for about 10 miles down a rough road. That's when it should have failed... but not!

GSWatson 05-20-2019 08:31 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyag1 (Post 769708)
Hey Greg,



Actually quite well. We have built up 2 rigs that had the emergency window and used both for ventilation all the time. The idea was if it failed we would replace it with a slider, but after have had 2 different vans they just keep on working. Once we boon-docking and forgot to close the window when abandoning camp. Drove with the window propped open for about 10 miles down a rough road. That's when it should have failed... but not!



Good to know!


Cheers,
Greg

GMAN_867 05-20-2019 09:35 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
So far no deal breakers! Thanks for the responses. Not sure I will delete the rear AC unit until I can see the real benefit in doing so. The wife and I are looking forward to making the purchase and getting it set up for some extended road trips. We live in the Bay Area and the kids are getting close to making their own money (YES) so we are looking forward to the next chapter! Plan to learn everything Sprinter closer to home and eventually explore the coast in both directions from summers in Alaska to winters Baja. Hoping to pick it up this weekend!

So does the stock A/C actually keep the entire van cool in hot weather while driving or is the roof mounted unit needed? The van does seat six for now.

snowcruiser 05-22-2019 12:50 PM

Re: Passenger Van Drawbacks and Limitations
 
One additional benefit not mentioned here is that Passenger Sprinters through 2018 were imported to the US fully assembled, meaning they were completely assembled in Germany. I believe the Cargo and Crew vans through 2018 were imported in pieces or sections to avoid the 'chicken tax' and keep costs low. I suspect the van's assembled in Germany may have more attention to detail though this is just speculation.


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