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Joshuaam
03-24-2017, 10:03 PM
I have managed to luck out and find a 2008 Dodge 3500 with 145K miles on it, but it has been sitting for the past 3 years. The check engine light is on, the abs is on, it needs alignment, and new suspension. This we know.

I have spoken to the owner and will look at it on Monday, and will take it to a mechanic for a code inspection and 40 point check.

The gentleman has told me he has had some one come out and take a look at it another sprinter enthusiast (don't cheat you might read this:P ) came and look at it today. He had the code-checker (not sure if mb or not) and said that he would need 3 grand to get it to where it need to be, the above listed, maybe a fuel pump, maybe a turbo, a pcv/egr valve replacement.

Now I still will take it to our family mechanic who knows quite a bit, and I do know that this thing is a deal at least I believe so but would I be potentially walking into a world of hurt.

I would like to hear from a few of you what kind of issues I might be walking into and is 3k a good estimate for fixing something up like this as far as engine and vehicle maintenance is concerned.

Thank you for your input and time, Ladies and Gentleman.

Tom9054
03-25-2017, 01:20 AM
owning a 2007-2500 which I've poured too much money into, a 3500 sounds even spend-ier. not much help I know. without the codes no one can answer really. Ifr 3k is your budget for repairs, well I would guess double it? and while your family mechanic I'm sure is a pretty upright fellow yet without Sprinter experience I would suggest proceed with caution. That information and $5 will get you a coffee at Starbucks!

smiller
03-25-2017, 01:36 AM
It's really impossible to say without the fault codes and a knowledgeable Sprinter mechanic once-over. Many potentially expensive repairs can be nothing but a sensor and a failed turbo is possible but not all that likely as they tend to be fairly reliable and often misdiagnosed, but without an inspection all anyone here can do is guess.

Joshuaam
03-25-2017, 02:24 AM
Thank you both. I will reply back here on Monday with the codes and info...

Joshuaam
03-28-2017, 10:52 PM
Ok so I have a good bit of info..

It is a 2008 NCV3 with the airport shuttle body, lived in the south west all it's life, sat for 3 years, has 144k on it. Runs fine in limp mode, the rest of the info is below.

I took it to my Mechanic here in Phoenix he is a vey experienced diesel mechanic and has rebuilt sprinters before, is he a specialist no, did he have the MB code reader no but here is what the reader told him and here is what his 40 point inspection told him.

Upon inspection.

Turbo needs to be replaced, visual inspection there is air coming from the air intake on top of the manifold. $2670 for turbo and labor he thinks he can find one for cheaper new in town.

Code P 029 A Turbo

Cat Converter $610 for the cat

It's an old airport shuttle it's probably all clogged up.. He is worried about this though as the dealer says it only has one cat but his book when he checks the VIN number says this model has two cats. Any one know about this?

code P242 F

Glow Plugs, $135

Codes P 0672

Wheel Bearings need adjusting, $110

tires $1000 for 6

Oil leak looks like it's coming from the oil pump seal, thinks he can fix it for 250 might be as high as 500. he will include the a/c belt that is about to come off as well.

Other than this he really likes these vehicles he likes the engines he said he opened one up at 375K last year that had thrown a turbo blade and the piston walls were pristine.

Can any of these turbo and cat issues be related to air sensors or PCR issues like I read about all the time.

Any input advice before I buy it would be appreciated. Thank you

Cheers!

Rob S
03-28-2017, 11:32 PM
If you decide to proceed on this advice, it is quite possibly going to cost you more than it should.

These codes are not precise enough to really know what is going on, you may end up spending much on things you don't need.

Turbo replacement is very unlikely needed on this model. Fixing the air leaks (gaskets maybe) first MIGHT get it going full power, unless the turbo ate the gasket...

AFAIK only one cat on 2008, however again these are not often replaced.

Spend a few hours reading all the posts on this forum about 2007-2008 models, and what people have run into, or take your wallet to your mechanic....

Joshuaam
03-29-2017, 03:49 AM
That wasn't so helpful thank you Rob S. I have done quite a bit of reading here already. Now I wanted to ask about this particular situation. I'm prepared to put 6k into the rebuke now. I would be getting the van for 8000. Still think it's a basket of trouble. I want to make the right decision here in regards to getting a sprinter but my budget is around 14 max.

Rob S
03-29-2017, 04:10 AM
Sorry about that, but I don't think anyone online here can tell you it won't be a crapshoot, or that you can count on meeting your budget.

What I am telling you is, some of the things your mechanic is suggesting might be found to be unnecessary if you know what to do first.

TO me the advice you are getting sounds a bit doubtful, before you jump in you might seek a second opinion.

Joshuaam
03-29-2017, 05:47 AM
Sorry about that, but I don't think anyone online here can tell you it won't be a crapshoot, or that you can count on meeting your budget.

What I am telling you is, some of the things your mechanic is suggesting might be found to be unnecessary if you know what to do first.

TO me the advice you are getting sounds a bit doubtful, before you jump in you might seek a second opinion.

Thats what I was thinking as well. Sorted I found a sprinter mechanic who posted on here a few years back. He mentioned he worked on fedex sprinters so lets see, he should have a lot of experience. He will me with me tomorrow to give it one more go over.

Joshuaam
03-29-2017, 09:50 PM
Update.

We had a Sprinter Fleet mechanic (he works on fedex sprinters all day) come out and look at it. Not sure I could have found a better mechanic in such a short notice. We checked out the turbo it's brand new so that is good to know. Once again is it's still a crap shoot but he believes he can fix it so lets roll the dice. I pick it up tomorrow for $8600. Wish me luck and pray to the sprinter gods for me for a good rebuild. :cheers:

Rob S
03-29-2017, 10:19 PM
Luck, I can wish you.

For the praying, you need to get somebody else!!