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mawsea
01-28-2009, 05:41 AM
Oh, and one more thing.......:idunno:...... I thought I was the only one but then i looked around....11399

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sikwan
01-28-2009, 02:31 PM
Where did you find all these pictures?

Interesting, nonetheless.

BaywoodBill
01-28-2009, 05:19 PM
Hi mawsea,

I guess you damaged your door from the wind taking if for a ride? Amazing to have found so many pictures of the same probblem.

contractor
01-28-2009, 06:32 PM
I have not had the problem but I will be extra careful now. Are these company trucks which were likely driven by numerous employees? I have seen soom company Sprinters that have really been beaten-up.

mawsea
01-28-2009, 06:54 PM
My van is my baby but a gust of wind mistook my door for a sail. I noticed the same damage on a van listed on ebay so i scanned thru the listings and dug up these. It got me thinking that while Benz was so busy designing such a great riding van they overlooked the fact there door is able to over extend and cause damage. Seems that with the weight of door, parked on a hill, gravity could cause the same result. I havent looked into it but I suppose one could reposition the "stop" so the door wasn't able to open so wide. But i havn't looked into it...still trying to figure how to get my door to shut squarely on the latch now. Anybody got pictures of the same damage? I'm starting a collection.

ccutshaw
01-28-2009, 07:50 PM
I haven't seen any damage like that. One other potential problem could be caused by some one using the door as a grab handle while climbing into their Sprinter.
Calvin

TooFast
01-29-2009, 04:23 PM
The 04 Sprinter I bought used has the same problem, same door.

Therberg
01-30-2009, 05:39 AM
Modifying the door stop was one of the first things I did . Several weeks after taking delivery of my new van it was hit with over spray from clear concrete sealer being applied on a new driveway up the street. Trying to track down a collision shop that could fit the van inside to deal with the over spray , I was lucky enough to find a shop that had a fair amount of experience working on sprinters, that was in 2003 and there were not many. They did all the collision and paint work on the local Fed Ex Sprinters and they recommended making that mod to the stop because of the many over extensions of the doors they have repaired.

hkpierce
01-30-2009, 04:01 PM
Modifying the door stop was one of the first things I did .


Can you take pictures and describe what was done for the benefit of the rest of the members?

rlent
01-30-2009, 08:10 PM
My son has the same damage on his '04 for sure ..... not sure about the '06 (or the '07 or '08 .....)

maxextz
01-31-2009, 01:38 PM
hi all, the funny thing about all of this is there is a piece of metal "between the hinges"that is ment to stop this from happening,:rant: and i also see it all the time, mine is ok when its windy i hold the doors tight:D:

Pistonbroke
01-31-2009, 04:48 PM
It happened to me in a previous van of mine, a gust of wind from behind when I opened the door caused it to swing
I would be interested in any mod to stop this happening on my present T1
thanks
Jon

Therberg
02-01-2009, 04:47 AM
Can you take pictures and describe what was done for the benefit of the rest of the members?

I will try to get a pic or two tomorrow, the weather here has been a bit on the cold side, tomorrow is supposed to warm up to 30 deg :clapping: and I will have to pull the stop out to get a pic of it .

contractor
02-01-2009, 05:08 AM
I checked my hinges today and I cannot see how there could ever be interference ... there must be 1/4" gap at worst case?

sikwan
02-01-2009, 11:26 PM
I checked mine too and if the door was to overextend beyond the tether (stop), the door will hit the hinge (bottom one in this case). This is true for my 2006 and the hinge is really close to the outer skin when opened all the way.

I know my door is like sail and when not careful when windy it does like to open fast. Lucky for the few times that happened, I was able to catch the door.

Thanks Mawsea for bringing it up. :thumbup:

Therberg
02-02-2009, 04:24 AM
Well I didn't get any pics of the actual modification but it is easy to explain. The hardest part may be removing the door panel to access the door detent/ stop.

Refer to this post for door panel removal http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1111

When the stop is removed you will see a steel pin pressed in at the end , instead of removing that pin I used a new roll pin and drilled the proper size hole , 3/8" center to center from the existing pin and reinstall stop. It is just that simple, should only take 1 hour for the first door and 1/2 hour for the second after you have it figured out :cheers:

mawsea
02-03-2009, 07:11 AM
Thanks Timhttp://sprinter-source.com/forum/images/smilies/cheers.gif This is gonna save some folks from door damage

chuho
12-21-2012, 03:39 PM
I wish I'd seen this thread before my door got over extended yesterday in a big gust.
Has anyone had the damage repaired by body shop? Was it a big job?


Charlie

hkpierce
12-21-2012, 03:57 PM
Given that T1Ns are becoming long in the tooth, I ignored mine (after doing the touch up for the paint, of course).

Fix/R&R the damage to the door check DIY here: http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20345&highlight=door+check

misterbond10
01-18-2016, 12:01 AM
When I was working on my van doors this winter I noticed the metal door jam that the door bolts to is quite thin and flexible. Push the door forward until it stops and you can see the door jam flexing back and forth...Wouldn't take much wind and I'd be riding about jeep wrangler style

MikeP
01-18-2016, 05:22 AM
Our front passenger doors don't get opened except for driver's side for fuel.
But, with rear entry wheelchair lift those doors are used heavily.
Wind caught right side door broke one of metal safety/stop straps early on, when van was new.
It was not expensive replacement but service manager at dealership was surprised at amount of work it took to replace. He kindly offered and I accepted his kind offer of changing it out for us himself. What we thought was simple couple minutes took him over an hour. The bent metal on door where it attached he decided best leave alone since might weaken it causing more damage next time wind caught it.
Now with 12/13 years of use the door metal is beat up, bent and wrapped pretty bad and getting worse.
Have to admit we have had other rear entry vans that before this age the hinge bolts into frame have had to be reinforced back in place due to wind damage. Sprinter's hinges, other than that metal strap are still appear solid. Just metal around the connections of those straps have to blunt of wind damage.

lindenengineering
01-18-2016, 06:05 AM
The time honored repair method ( by me, my father, his father and his father before him) is to put a 1/2" drive 3/8ths socket strategically placed between the door frame and door carcass. Then try to shut the door with a series of hard/sharp pulse like pushes.
With a bit of practice this Iowa USA/Zummerzet UK farm boy trick works quite well! Even on Rolls Royce motor cars, let alone a moldy old Mercedes!:laughing:
Try it but practice first a bit!:thumbup:
Dennis

random
05-18-2016, 11:51 PM
Hkpierce, I am interested in the door strap kit you purchased. What is its official name, or do you have a part number?
To the folks who have installed it, does it work?
My driver's door is starting to show, just in the last day, and I have been careful with it. I'm pissed��
Thanks!

random
05-19-2016, 12:48 AM
OK I am looking at the hinge between sessions here at the MX track. I don't see why I could not just shorten the strap myself, either by cutting and welding it or by placing a spacer of some sort inside the door, between the door itself and the place where the strap contacts it. Anyone done this?
Thanks again
Oh and I am not sure I follow Dennis on the socket thing. I've done that trick before on other stuff but don't understand this application.

tinman
05-19-2016, 04:43 AM
OK I am looking at the hinge between sessions here at the MX track. I don't see why I could not just shorten the strap myself, either by cutting and welding it or by placing a spacer of some sort inside the door, between the door itself and the place where the strap contacts it. Anyone done this?
Thanks again
Oh and I am not sure I follow Dennis on the socket thing. I've done that trick before on other stuff but don't understand this application.

I believe post #16 on this thread describes effectively shortening the strap by moving the roll pin attaching strap to door 3/8".

psychoboy
05-19-2016, 06:28 PM
my 2006 is on its third driver's door after the first two got sprung by a driver who never let the door swing in the wind.......

be careful about continuing to use the door, because the shell is bent (it has to be...the hinges don't hyper-extend, and the check strap won't stretch, so the leading edge of the door shell must bend enough to let the skin contact the structure. a little bent eventually becomes a lot bent, and the door will start to sag,

sagging doors start hitting the striker in the wrong place, and it won't be long before you are lowering the window to pull the door shut from the inside, because you've bent the pillar at the striker, the shell at the latch, and torn the interior panel off the door. that is followed by taking a right turn on an interstate on-ramp and almost falling out of the van when the driver's door flies open.

random
05-20-2016, 02:21 AM
Tinman, thanks! I don't know how I missed that post.
Psycho boy, I am being suuper careful until I fix it.
Did I mention how pissed I am?

grapegrower
05-20-2016, 02:19 PM
Thanks for the photos. I bought my 06 used and thought someone had tried to pry the door open to steal something. The first photo depicts identical damage that I have. Interested now in how to make a door stop.

SprintKon
12-04-2017, 05:30 AM
Hi all, I just purchased a 2005 that has this damage on each door. They stops seemed to open too wide in my opinion and I feel that the first detente is what I wanted to be my maximum opening. I had the door trim off to remove the limo tint from the windows, saw the limit strap and thought about putting another pin in. It seemed like too much work so I have 'installed' and will test the following modification. I used some 1/2 inch thin walled galvanized pipe, it may be conduit. The I.D. of the pipe needs to be large enough to fit over the pin, but not too over sized. The length I cut off is about 1/2 inch, but you will be able to measure in case your strap's rubber bushing has more or less wear than mine. Slip that piece over the pin and crimp it down between the vertical pin and the rectangle shaped 'washer'.

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Be aware that when the door is stopped at this angle there is a different stress on the bolts holding the strap to the vehicle body. It is more of tension or 'pull' stress verses a sheer stress on the bolts when the door is maxed out at the factory 90 degree to the body stop.

I just installed and don't even have the vehicle registered yet to tell you about the longevity of this mod.