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Düsseldorfer
06-05-2016, 01:53 AM
$5.99/qt (http://specials.napaecatalog.com/app.php?RelId=6.2.3.41) for the 229.51-rated Mobil 1 ESP.

Happy Sprintering!

D

Brokecanadian
06-05-2016, 04:09 AM
Very good price by the quart, picked up a gallon of same for 22.00 in PA Walmart though...unless 229.5 is different (I've got a T1N)

geoffs
06-05-2016, 05:29 AM
I wish it was available that cheap here. Last time I bought a 5 litre container of Mobil 1, 0W40, it was $A109 (about $US80)

Brokecanadian
06-05-2016, 05:36 AM
I wish it was available that cheap here. Last time I bought a 5 litre container of Mobil 1, 0W40, it was $A109 (about $US80)

Ouch. It's actually 49.95 Canadian here (thought that was bad) so I pick up what I can across the border...look on the bright side, I'm sure you save on housing, average price in Toronto a scant half hour from me is 1.28 million

icarus
06-05-2016, 05:41 AM
Very good price by the quart, picked up a gallon of same for 22.00 in PA Walmart though...unless 229.5 is different (I've got a T1N)

229.51 is different!

Icarus

Brokecanadian
06-05-2016, 05:45 AM
229.51 is different!

Icarus

Hopefully adequate for T1N, I'm new to the finicky sprinter...love it though

icarus
06-05-2016, 06:17 AM
Hopefully adequate for T1N, I'm new to the finicky sprinter...love it though

RTFM! T1N w/out DPF doesn't need .51 iirc.

Icarus

Brokecanadian
06-05-2016, 07:36 AM
RTFM! T1N w/out DPF doesn't need .51 iirc.

Icarus

Yep I meant I hoped what I picked up at Walmart US was OK cause it said car formula...Canada packaging was different, green lid too...i feel for you NCV3 Owners, that stuff seems hard to find and expensive...back to the T1N section now:rolleyes:

Bigscore
06-05-2016, 03:12 PM
$5.99/qt (http://specials.napaecatalog.com/app.php?RelId=6.2.3.41) for the 229.51-rated Mobil 1 ESP.

Happy Sprintering!

D

That is a great price. I paid over $11 per quart on my last oil change, that what I get for not stocking up and running out of time.

sailquik
06-05-2016, 03:41 PM
Dusseldorfer,
Somehow, I could not find any Mobil 1 5W-40 ESP Formula M on the NAPA site.
Which of the oils they list for $5.99 are you suggesting meets MB BEVO 229.51?
There may be a 5W-30 or 0W-30 but there is not enough information on the NAPA
website to determine what specifications the oils offered at this price meet.
Sorry,
Roger

Brokecanadian
06-05-2016, 05:05 PM
Dusseldorfer,
Somehow, I could not find any Mobil 1 5W-40 ESP Formula M on the NAPA site.
Which of the oils they list for $5.99 are you suggesting meets MB BEVO 229.51?
There may be a 5W-30 or 0W-30 but there is not enough information on the NAPA
website to determine what specifications the oils offered at this price meet.
Sorry,
Roger
http://www.napaonline.com/p/MOJ105856
Think this is it, I had a learning experience last night, wow do they make it impossible to find and compare pricing...as usual they don't post oil specs on the website

bcislander
06-06-2016, 03:55 AM
http://www.napaonline.com/p/MOJ105856
Think this is it, I had a learning experience last night, wow do they make it impossible to find and compare pricing...as usual they don't post oil specs on the website

That's the right oil, but notice that it is Out of Stock. This oil was discontinued by Mobil quite some time ago, ~1y IIRC.

So, unless NAPA has a few bottles hidden in a back corner somewhere, you are unlikely to get any.

imstilllarry
06-07-2016, 12:46 AM
Thanks for the tip, my two cases 0w30 will be here tomorrow. They seem to have all you want of 0w30. No 5w40, he says computer said its discontinued.


2014 LTV Unity MB on 2013 Sprinter

Aqua Puttana
06-07-2016, 12:49 AM
... No 5w40, he says computer said its discontinued.


2014 LTV Unity MB on 2013 Sprinter
Mobil stopped production of that product.

vic

icarus
06-07-2016, 02:44 AM
I got 18 qts at my. Local NAPA today, 229.52 0/30 $5.95@

Icarus

4wheels
06-07-2016, 04:36 AM
I got 18 qts at my. Local NAPA today, 229.52 0/30 $5.95@

Icarus
Watery oil + V6/5G ( with some miles on it ) + somewhere in Texas (heat ) = blown engine , imho.

nc3vseeker
06-10-2016, 09:48 PM
Watery oil + V6/5G ( with some miles on it ) + somewhere in Texas (heat ) = blown engine , imho.

are you suggesting the 0/30 oil shouldn't be used?

LuckyDawgz Jim
06-10-2016, 11:42 PM
Mobil 1 120760 Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart MB 229.3 & 229.5
Price: $22.88 Amazon Prime free shipping

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG76A9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My 2002 owners manual did not even require full synthetic...

Brokecanadian
06-11-2016, 12:26 AM
Mobil 1 120760 Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart MB 229.3 & 229.5
Price: $22.88 Amazon Prime free shipping

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG76A9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My 2002 owners manual did not even require full synthetic...
Don't post T1N oil in the NCV3 forum you'll get yelled at:laughing:

sunnyside
06-11-2016, 02:26 AM
[QUOTE=LuckyDawgz Jim;464683]Mobil 1 120760 Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart MB 229.3 & 229.5
Price: $22.88 Amazon Prime free shipping

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG76A9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This oil will clog your DPF FAST the oil we are talking about is MB 229.51 spec. 229.5 and 229.3 have nothing to do with 229.51

LuckyDawgz Jim
06-11-2016, 02:36 AM
[QUOTE=LuckyDawgz Jim;464683]Mobil 1 120760 Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart MB 229.3 & 229.5
Price: $22.88 Amazon Prime free shipping

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG76A9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This oil will clog your DPF FAST the oil we are talking about is MB 229.51 spec. 229.5 and 229.3 have nothing to do with 229.51

I truly meant no harm... I will take my T1N-can and go back over to the other side. :rolleyes:

sunnyside
06-11-2016, 02:43 AM
[QUOTE=sunnyside;464724]

I truly meant no harm... I will take my T1N-can and go back over to the other side. :rolleyes:

I know you meant no harm:bash: but folks need to use 229.51 or 228.51 in their NV3 or bad DPF problems can result prematurely

4wheels
06-11-2016, 02:09 PM
are you suggesting the 0/30 oil shouldn't be used?
For V6/5G -yes. 5G overloads V6 . 7G never overloads I4

4wheels
06-11-2016, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=LuckyDawgz Jim;464683]Mobil 1 120760 Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart MB 229.3 & 229.5
Price: $22.88 Amazon Prime free shipping

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG76A9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This oil will clog your DPF FAST the oil we are talking about is MB 229.51 spec. 229.5 and 229.3 have nothing to do with 229.51
I met an expeditor in KY , he was in 2015 V6 , he had 2008 and he said he put 600k on it before a deer destroyed it . He said his dummy belt was original. No problems , except with DPF . Had to bake it and clean every 100k or less. He used that oil. When I asked him if he knows what is 229.51 he said - what is that ? Then I said that EBSSprinting did 600k and never cleaned DPF and he used Valvoline 5w40 mst. He was surprised and took a picture of my Valvoline bottle and Motul 5w40 x clean that I am using now.

Aqua Puttana
06-11-2016, 02:34 PM
I truly meant no harm... I will take my T1N-can and go back over to the other side. :rolleyes:

Bad dawg!! Get in your crate.

:laughing:

vic

LuckyDawgz Jim
06-11-2016, 04:31 PM
Bad dawg!! Get in your crate.

:laughing:

vic

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/54/9c/db/549cdb237a5520455de3d89889e54662.jpg

We'd better go now...

Bigscore
06-12-2016, 05:13 AM
The Napa Hub in Norcross GA has 120 quarts of the 229.51 3w30 according to the local stores computer.

sunnyside
06-12-2016, 02:41 PM
[QUOTE=sunnyside;464724]
I met an expeditor in KY , he was in 2015 V6 , he had 2008 and he said he put 600k on it before a deer destroyed it . He said his dummy belt was original. No problems , except with DPF . Had to bake it and clean every 100k or less. He used that oil. When I asked him if he knows what is 229.51 he said - what is that ? Then I said that EBSSprinting did 600k and never cleaned DPF and he used Valvoline 5w40 mst. He was surprised and took a picture of my Valvoline bottle and Motul 5w40 x clean that I am using now.

Thanks for the heads up on the Motul! Never knew it existed

moondawg14
06-13-2016, 03:32 PM
For V6/5G -yes. 5G overloads V6 . 7G never overloads I4

this is basically FUD.


The vast majority of 229.51 oils are 5w30, Which is nearly identical to 0w30 at high temperatures.
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html


And if you step up to 229.52, there are NO 40-weight oils specified.
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html

Clearly, MB doesn't share any concerns about "watery oil"

Aqua Puttana
06-13-2016, 03:56 PM
MB needs to care about meeting emissions and mpg standards. The 0w-30 oil likely contributes to those goals. Probably one of the reasons there aren't any XXw-140 gear oils found listed for Sprinter differentials in BeVo.

vic

moondawg14
06-13-2016, 05:45 PM
MB needs to care about meeting emissions and mpg standards. The 0w-30 oil likely contributes to those goals. Probably one of the reasons there aren't any XXw-140 gear oils found listed for Sprinter differentials in BeVo.

vic

They also need to care about warranty. If there was concern about an engine grenading under hot conditions... they wouldn't specify the oil.

4wheels
06-14-2016, 07:18 AM
They also need to care about warranty. If there was concern about an engine grenading under hot conditions... they wouldn't specify the oil.
They do not care about warranty . They know that under normal driving condition the engine will last 100k , even if you will use a watery oil . How about 400- 500k ? Do they care about it ? They do not , but I do .

4wheels
06-14-2016, 07:52 AM
[QUOTE=4wheels;464823]

Thanks for the heads up on the Motul! Never knew it existed
Motul 5w40 x-clean 229.51 is a true 100% synthetic oil. Group IV . I am at 12k now on that oil and the dipstick is still clean . See my previous posts where I was saying that I will change my oil every 10K in my 2014 V6 . I did so with Mobil 5W40 ESP that I still had in my garage and then with Valvoline 5W40 MST from NAPA . I even did it at 9k and one time at 7,5k ( before a long trip )
At around 8K the oil was black on dipstick ( I know , It is a diesel , and not my first one and not second , so I know what I am talking about ) . Also , the sound of the engine started to change , it was not the same after you just changed the oil. Then someone told me that here in US there is no true 100% synthetic oil , well maybe Amsoil . Valvoline MST and Mobil ESP and oil from a dealer - are group 3 oils , which means they have some recycled oil in it (hydrocracked ) plus some synthetic . Note that only Amsoil writes 100% synthetic . You can read full synthetic or something else but not 100% synthetic on oils that are sold in US .
Motul - is a group IV oil , which under EU laws can only be 100% synthetic . So , here is me - checking my plastic dipstick ( sorry bobnoxious) at 8k and the oil is not black , then checking it again at 10k and oil is not black , then , most of all , engine sounds the same , just like after you just change your oil . I could not believe my eyes and ears . I just could not drain it at 10k , I did almost 15k and now I am at 12K . I think , this oil easily can do 20k , but you have to change oil filter at 10k , because , IMHO , it is small . My VW Golf TDI's oil filter is like 2x larger and my 1997 Passat's oil filter was almost 3x . And those cars had only 5qt of oil , not 13 , like Sprinter .
Please , do not beat me for this oil post - I just shared my experience , you can try - you've got nothing to loose.
Also , if someone will find a mistake in spelling ( sorry Dennis ) do not beat me hard , as English is my second language and , as you can see ,I can still write ( not sure about Mexican mechanics , I hope no one makes fun of them for that )
:2cents:

4wheels
06-14-2016, 08:34 AM
Copied and pasted

In the late 1990s, Castrol started selling an oil made from Group III base oil and called it SynTec Full Synthetic. Mobil sued Castrol, asserting that this oil was not synthetic, but simply a highly refined petroleum oil, and therefore it was false advertising to call it synthetic. In 1999, Mobil lost their lawsuit. It was decided that the word "synthetic" was a marketing term and referred to properties, not to production methods or ingredients. Castrol continues to make SynTec out of Group III base oils, that is highly purified oil with most all of the cockroach bits removed.

Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has nearly the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. In fact, Mobil-1 is now primarily made from Group III unconventional base oils, exactly the stuff Mobil was claiming was not really synthetic. The much more expensive traditional synthetics are now available in their pure forms only in more expensive and harder to obtain oils."

Aqua Puttana
06-14-2016, 10:06 AM
They also need to care about warranty. If there was concern about an engine grenading under hot conditions... they wouldn't specify the oil.
I can't disagree. My wife's 2015 gas engine specifies 0w-20. That is absolutely contrary to everything that I'm familiar with as to proper engine oil.

To me it comes down to whether you believe in the science of BeVo. I don't believe anyone can successfully argue that MB hasn't done their homework. The Euro ASEA oil standards are based upon the MB science and test engine models. The ASEA standards appear to me to be more detailed than our API.

My stance has been that if you use the correct viscosity for your operating conditions and stay with the BeVo list for your vehicle all will be fine.

Ciprian has over 750,000 miles on his T1N. I know that he runs best price, not specific brand, 15w-40 MB228.3 oil most of the time. "Most" because there's even been some not approved for his engine MB228.31 oil thrown in occasionally.

I take the BeVo concept one step further. If I see the MB BeVo spec just mentioned with proper ACEA class on a product label that is good enough for me to buy it and use it in my Sprinter. It doesn't need to be officially listed on BeVo. My engine always seems to sound the same to me.

:cheers: vic

Nate
06-15-2016, 05:09 PM
I picked up the 0W30 ESP X1 from my local Napa.

They tried selling me the 0W30 advanced Fuel mileage but that is a different oil.

Thanks for the tip on the pricing. :)

Oh and the ESP is MB 229.51 & 229.52

Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk

Giver123
06-17-2016, 08:51 PM
I called Napa today and they said they don't carry Mobile 1 ESP. I'm not quite sure what Düsseldorfer is referring to. If he is referring to the last page of the link he included then that's not showing Mobil 1 ESP.

There is only one oil that I use and that is https://www.amazon.com/Mobil-5W-30-Synthetic-Motor-Bottles/dp/B00IJP5972

If there is something that I am missing here please let me know. Maybe he's referring to the oil on the fourth page but again I don't see the wording Mobile 1 ESP.

Thanks

Bigscore
06-21-2016, 12:10 AM
I called Napa today and they said they don't carry Mobile 1 ESP. I'm not quite sure what Düsseldorfer is referring to. If he is referring to the last page of the link he included then that's not showing Mobil 1 ESP.

There is only one oil that I use and that is https://www.amazon.com/Mobil-5W-30-Synthetic-Motor-Bottles/dp/B00IJP5972

If there is something that I am missing here please let me know. Maybe he's referring to the oil on the fourth page but again I don't see the wording Mobile 1 ESP.

Thanks

I just bought 24 quarts of 5/30 Mobil 1 ESP AT NAPA. It's not in the 2016 product book but it is in the computer.

moondawg14
06-21-2016, 01:57 PM
I called Napa today and they said they don't carry Mobile 1 ESP. I'm not quite sure what Düsseldorfer is referring to. If he is referring to the last page of the link he included then that's not showing Mobil 1 ESP.

There is only one oil that I use and that is https://www.amazon.com/Mobil-5W-30-Synthetic-Motor-Bottles/dp/B00IJP5972

If there is something that I am missing here please let me know. Maybe he's referring to the oil on the fourth page but again I don't see the wording Mobile 1 ESP.

Thanks

http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/search/?text=121218

They sell it. order online and pick up at the store. It's not popular, sometimes the store will have to order it in.

Inertiaman
09-07-2016, 08:54 PM
Sale is back again for month of September. $5.79/qt.

https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/MOR121218/MOR121218

Make sure its the 121218 "model" number . . . that's the one that meets MB specs 229.31, 229.51 and 229.52.

Camper Ken
09-09-2016, 01:27 AM
I just had my first oil change in my 2015 Sprinter (Winnebago/Itasca Navion motorhome). The repair order stated Mobil 1 5w-30 229.51.

srt4ny
09-09-2016, 11:47 PM
Tx i just picked up 8 cases 5.79 at napa