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shanemac
10-22-2008, 02:59 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked i did a bunch or searching on this sight, but when is comes to Canadian fuel stations who do you find is better for diesel? Or is there a difference?

My local choices are SHELL, PETRO CANADA, SAFEWAY,EXTRA FOODS, FAS/GAS, AND ESSO.

I'm a new owner of a 07 sprinter and this is my first diesel.

rvdriverca
10-22-2008, 03:30 AM
go to this web site. flyingj.com these are truck stops across canada and the usa. usaly best the prices and located in every province and state

shanemac
10-22-2008, 03:37 AM
Thanks for link

bikergar
10-22-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure if this will help in Canada but...here it is anyway (http://www.dieselboss.com/fuel.htm)...

gary

jdcaples
10-22-2008, 11:25 PM
I exclusively use commercial sites. The most important aspect of a fuel station choice is inventory turn over. Ask the owner how often the tanks need to be refilled. The place I use gets new fuel every three days. What you don't want is old fuel that has had a chance to take on moisture.

Truck stops and especially cardlock sites are the way to go.

If you're curious, start here: Google Canada Cardlock Fuel Network (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=canada+cardlock+fuel+network&btnG=Search)

Aqua Puttana
10-22-2008, 11:52 PM
I prefer to use local small guys, but...... I always ask something like, "So how's your turnover on diesel?." Most are very honest with the answer. In our tourist area the guy that I use only in summer said, "We do great during the summer, but it slows way down in Fall". Like I said, I use him over summer 'cause I want to support local people. I think you really are best off with the highest volume stations you can identify with local business given an edge. I have a soft spot for other little guys. Hope this helps.
I exclusively use commercial sites. The most important aspect of a fuel station choice is inventory turn over. Ask the owner how often the tanks need to be refilled. The place I use gets new fuel every three days. What you don't want is old fuel that has had a chance to take on moisture.

Truck stops and especially cardlock sites are the way to go.

If you're curious, start here: Google Canada Cardlock Fuel Network (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=canada+cardlock+fuel+network&btnG=Search)

contractor
10-23-2008, 12:22 AM
I love buying fuel in Canada. They are so far advanced over the US in marketing and moving the product. I usually go to Toronto each year and all of the filling stations pricing is posted in large numbers on the signage (similar to here except it is all electronic).

Throughout the day pricing is going up and down in order to move product and adjust for the market. It is not usually to see pricing changes of 10 cents per liter throughout the day! (and that was when the fuel was 80cents/liter).

It's lots of fun seeing pricing and shaking your head in disbelief ... only to see the price at the station totally different hours later. I learned if it is low, you have to act now.

jdcaples
10-23-2008, 02:22 PM
Just a note on supporting your local guys: Commerical fueling networks are networks of local, independent businesses. They aren't they owned by a big giant corporation with a big giant corporate HQ.

At least in the States, all the CFN (http://www.cfnnet.com)fueling stations are "little guys;" local businesses employing local people to operate their petroleum jobber business.

My usual site - Olson Energy (http://www.olsonenergy.com/)- is actually an heating oil & furnace company. That's their core business. I also use a shultz distributing (http://www.shultzdist.com/) site when I'm in south seattle.

Olson gets their heating oil from a local distributor who also sells them road diesel and gasoline. The hunk of land they use for an office, doubles as a parking place for furnace, water heater, and heating oil delivery service trucks and a gas station.

As a CFN member (I am a CFN card holder. Only businesses may be CFN members), Olson, Shultz and all the other CFN members get to sell fuel to local businesses - cement trucks, delivery trucks, the local Volkswagen dealership, airport shuttle service vehicles, taxi fleets - and those businesses get to keep an eye on their fuel consumption in one statement, no matter which CFN site they use to add go juice to their tanks.

The major benefit to me is fresh and filtered fuel.

The benefit to CFN members is that - with the cardlock system - they don't have to pay visa, mastercard or american express their credit card fees. I'm told CFN charges a lot less to act as single point of contact for fuel purchase record keeping. CFN members like Olson and Shultz aren't liable for the costs incured by selling fuel on a stolen credit card. Credit cards don't work on CFN equipment.

I think it's an elegant and efficient cooperative business model.

-Jon

shanemac
10-29-2008, 02:28 AM
Thanks for the reply's, I considered a card lock in my city but never thought of the high turn over of diesel i may look into them again. From what i gather using a station with high turn over is better...sofar the last few fill ups i did were from esso station and from the filth of the pump i can tell it gets used alot:lol:

My next fill up I'll be dropping in some fuel additive, seeing red line does not ship to Canada i was looking at amsoil additives http://www.amsoil.com/a/Fuel-Additives-Performance-Improver and seeing my neighbor is a dealer i was thinking of trying it out that or the Diesel Kleen.

shanemac
10-31-2008, 03:24 AM
Well decided to go to PETRO CANADA station today there pumps are clearly labeled ultra low sulfur, pump is basically all yellow in color i guess not to confuse anybody:idunno:, not sure but this diesel seemed to stink less than the esso stuff:crazy: must be me i guess, anyhow will be using this PETRO CANADA in the mean time.

jdcaples
10-31-2008, 04:38 AM
Well decided to go to PETRO CANADA station today there pumps are clearly labeled ultra low sulfur, pump is basically all yellow in color i guess not to confuse anybody:idunno:, not sure but this diesel seemed to stink less than the esso stuff:crazy: must be me i guess, anyhow will be using this PETRO CANADA in the mean time.

Never, ever, ever use anything but ultra-low sulphur diesel in your Sprinter and yes, ULSD is less aromatic than the 500 parts per million diesel.

-Jon