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bladerunner
02-23-2015, 08:20 PM
This is what vaccinations wiped out....................

flman
02-23-2015, 09:42 PM
TB?

chromisdesigns
02-23-2015, 10:15 PM
TB?

Polio, looks like. But TB was a big killer too.

bladerunner
02-23-2015, 11:49 PM
TB?


Yep...........Polio.

K-9 SPRINTER
02-24-2015, 12:52 AM
now the Government has stuff like Bacillus anthracis, Brucella (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brucella) spp., Burkholderia mallei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkholderia_mallei), Burkholderia pseudomallei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkholderia_pseudomallei), Chlamydophila psittaci (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlamydophila_psittaci), Coxiella burnetii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coxiella_burnetii), Francisella tularensis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisella_tularensis), some of the Rickettsiaceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickettsiaceae) (especially Rickettsia prowazekii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickettsia_prowazekii) and Rickettsia rickettsii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickettsia_rickettsii)), Shigella (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigella) spp., Vibrio cholerae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrio_cholerae), and Yersinia pestis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis).
Many of these viral agents have been studied and/or weaponized, including some of the Bunyaviridae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunyaviridae) (especially Rift Valley fever virus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rift_Valley_fever)), Ebolavirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola), many of the Flaviviridae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaviviridae) (especially Japanese encephalitis virus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_encephalitis)), Machupo virus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivian_hemorrhagic_fever), Marburg virus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus), Variola virus, and Yellow fever virus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_fever)

and theres still the small pox, and stuff , they got locked away for future dispersal

bladerunner
02-28-2015, 11:09 PM
https://richarddawkins.net/2015/02/germany-measles-toddler-death-fuels-compulsory-vaccination-debate/

Russ61
03-01-2015, 12:22 AM
Those of us old enough to remember life in the early 50's recall the epidemic of polio in the US, some forms of which required use of these "iron lung" machines to assist with the otherwise paralyzed respiratory muscles of such polio victims, usually (tragically) children....thus the March of Dimes program. Note the mirrors placed above the patient to facilitate a more normal or correct orientation for "face to face" communication with medical staff and visitors. I recall spending a hot summer in New England virtually isolated from populated places, especially swimming areas (ocean deemed okay) until the later arrival of the Salk and then Sabin vaccines which mostly, quickly eradicated the fearful anxiety of contracting polio. Whooping cough, measles, chicken pox, etc were all normally potential childhood diseases for which vaccines were developed, mostly reducing the threat and allowing some to think of immunizations as an elective impacting only themselves (or their children)....it isn't!

flman
03-01-2015, 12:50 PM
I do remember the march of dimes commercials on the radio as a kid.

K-9 SPRINTER
03-01-2015, 10:22 PM
Vaccination protocols are even worse for dogs.
I done titer tests on my dogs after they are vaccinated, YES it cost 5 times the price of the vaccination, but the after years of doing the titers test , I no longer re vaccinate,(or titer test) any of my dogs as the level of anti bodies has ALWAYS be enough, even after 11 years ,for rabies, parvo, or any other vaccination they say are needed.............

flman
03-02-2015, 01:16 PM
Vaccination protocols are even worse for dogs.
I done titer tests on my dogs after they are vaccinated, YES it cost 5 times the price of the vaccination, but the after years of doing the titers test , I no longer re vaccinate,(or titer test) any of my dogs as the level of anti bodies has ALWAYS be enough, even after 11 years ,for rabies, parvo, or any other vaccination they say are needed.............

And how do you get around the yearly registration, they want a rabies update every couple of years?

david_42
03-02-2015, 04:34 PM
I'm old enough to have had measles, whooping cough, mumps and chicken pox (still have scars); any parent that purposely leaves their kids vunerable to avoidable diseases should be locked in stocks and publicly mocked.

CheckMax
03-02-2015, 08:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M#t=159

bladerunner
03-09-2015, 08:48 PM
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-truth-about-vaccines

surlyoldbill
03-13-2015, 03:05 AM
I live in a precarious world. My super hot genius girlfriend/spousal equivalent has some hippy leanings, and is an anti-vaxer. I think every argument I hear to NOT vaccinate is laughable, especially the conspiracy theory ones (which she mentions...oops).

Lets say I'm old and wise enough to know when to keep my mouth shut.

BaywoodBill
12-30-2016, 02:12 AM
Vaccines: get them.

Influenze every year.
Both anti pneumonia vaccines
the shingles vaccine
tetanus boosters

Of course, the antii-vaxxers can point to not having had diseases because they haven't been exposed because everyone around them has been "vaxxered".

Old Crows
12-30-2016, 03:01 AM
March of Dimes deployed coin collectors that looked like iron lungs. You dropped your pocket change into a slot to make a donation.

News reels at the theatre showing rooms of iron lungs all wheezing away keeping people alive..... And the big invention...a shell that fit over the torso that supported breathing.

Very, very scary stuff when you are 8 years old......

Any one not vaccinating is a fool.

Aqua Puttana
12-30-2016, 03:01 PM
I agree with the tried and true (to me) childhood vaccinations.

To date I'm fairly healthy and the flu hasn't been a problem. If things change I will likely get the flu vaccination.

I considered the shingles vaccination. The television adverts are quite compelling. Then I realized that the adverts are selling something (follow the money). My experience within my circle of family and friends doesn't support the shingles infection statistics which they tout on the adverts. Unless things change I'm rolling the dice on that one too.

I recently got an overdue tetanus combination vaccination, but I generally do try to keep current on that.

For those that want to discuss the politics/implications of vaccination programs, and not the nuts and bolts of who personally did what, should go to the Danger Zone here.


Vaccines and anti-vaxers
https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40677

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Ourection
02-21-2017, 07:19 PM
I do have some friends that refuse to get vaccination for their babies. It is a bit sad. Before the internet era, people just follow what are being told to prevent disease. But when people like to read on the internet and choose to believe it, it could be their parent fault if something happen to their babies