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05-27-2008, 11:56 AM
It would be interesting to hear from everyone on how you are adapting to the increased costs. Vacations in the Sprinter RV, buying fuel for the work truck sprinter, or adapting with the other vehicals you drive. I am lucky and can ride my scooter to work if I please, 45 mpg. My wife also rides hers every day to work. What are the rest of you doing? zz

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05-27-2008, 01:00 PM
All I could do is back off the pedal, which does work and interesting article
RV industry takes hit from high gas prices (http://www.necn.com/Boston/Business/RV-industry-takes-hit-from-high-gas-prices/1211840503.html)

05-27-2008, 01:25 PM

you should have titled this thread 'One million dollars a gallon'.
then it would have lasted at least until october(08).


05-27-2008, 01:28 PM
I usually drive the conversion at 65 mph or less. I stay to the right when possible as to not impede traffic flow, and pull off if I create a backup. This way I still get 21-22 mpg , anything above 65 and the mileage drops dramatically! The Interstate tops at just below the gross weight if I carry all the tanks full. By reducing the amount of fresh water by 20 gallons and keeping the black tank empty also helps. Now that I have this 1970 Aistream trailer to tow, I must be totally aware of my limitations on weight. Towing capacity 5000 lbs, trailer weight full about 4200 lbs. I am cutting it close, must be aware of the safety issues. Now that is going to change mpg. Adding the weight and drag should definitly affect mpg, probably by 5 at least. Should be interesting to see how a loaded to the max a 2500 sprinter holds up to the stress and how the mpg is affected! zz

05-27-2008, 01:30 PM
Or just changed it to quarts!! zz

05-27-2008, 02:03 PM
Gotta go where I gotta go....

Keeping the Sprinter but trying to drive slower....

Also selling my Jeep Wrangler which I use for work. It gets pretty good gas mileage for a 4x4 (20 mpg) and it is fun in the summer but I have to keep costs down so I am looking at a used Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe instead.

Thought about a used diesel Jetta wagon...but they seem to have some reliability issues and quality problems. and the last thing I have time for is going to the dealer every month with a warranty or repair issue. They are pretty pricy up here as well. It really bummed me out cuz i really like how they look and drive.

Still taking the family on vacation to California this summer...kids grow up fast and we want to make the most of the short time we have with them! That and the look on their 90 year old great grandma's face when she sees them is worth it no matter what the price of fuel!


05-27-2008, 04:04 PM
We just moved to San Francisco where we're close to the subway (BART), a grocery store, and a pharmacy. Each of them are only a 5 minute walk away. The mall is a good 30 minute walk (this could be good or bad :smirk:). We drive a Subaru Forester when we're in SF and only fill up at Costco.

I only see the Sprinter, motorcycles, and tools on weekends in San Jose. :cry: Any activity that involves fuel is cut back drastically and our legs are now used more often.

05-27-2008, 04:11 PM
Bio Diesel co-op.
Bring Oil, they convert
Cost less than $3 per gallon.

I haven't signed up yet. $500 membership fee for life.

Out in rural America as my health insurance company refers to where we live, there is no other choice but drive. The Elementary school might be only 7/10th of a mile from my front door, but the road to get there has no sidewalk and the traffic speeds up to 20miles over the speed limit making it extremely unsafe for me to walk with the kids. I wish the county would do something about the speeders and no sidewalks, they would save a lot of money in school buses fuel usage.

Same road goes to the closest grocery store, but it's just not safe to walk with kids. Not only traffic, but vehicles through rocks up and those can injure a child in a stroller or walking. Pitty.

06-07-2008, 10:51 PM

Business National

Turkey consumes most expensive gas in the world

Turkey has the highest gasoline and diesel prices in the world due to high taxes and profit margins in addition to soaring oil prices, new energy data has revealed.

The price of a liter of gasoline reached $2.6 and diesel $2.4, according to International Energy Agency (IEA) data. With the recent price hikes, gas and diesel prices hit YTL 3.48 and YTL 3.03, respectively.

Industry specialists said they cannot estimate at what point oil prices will peak, also noting that a decline in taxes on fuel oil may help Turkey's residents a little. According to the Turkish Oil Industry Association (Petder), the economic volume of the gas sector, aviation included, is around YTL 62 billion, and the sector's value-added tax (VAT) and excise tax totaled YTL 26 billion last year.

Moreover, Turkish Fuel Stations, Oil and Gas Company Employers' Union (TABGİS) President Atıf Ketenci said the prices may decline by YKr 7-8 (YTL 0.07-8) if the main distributors stop giving out free items at gas stations based on the amount of gas purchased.

Ministry of Energy and Natural Resources data and IEA data reveal that the gasoline prices in Turkey exceed those in developed countries. The price of a liter of gas in Turkey is around $2.6, while it is $2.2 in Germany, $2.1 in France and England and $1.1 in Italy and Canada. The price of gas is around $0.8 per liter in the US.
There is a similar situation in diesel. The price of a liter of diesel in Turkey is around $2.4, while it is $1.6 in France and $1.7 in Germany.
The share of taxes in gas prices in the Turkish market is 60 percent, while it is 62 percent in Germany, 57 percent in Italy and 60 percent in.




06-08-2008, 04:10 AM
Plug in hybrid.

That's what I want. I would like a small car with a a monster electric motor on the rear axle and a whole trunk full of batteries like the TESLA but I want one more thing - a itty biddy tiny 3 Cyl diesel under the hood in case I exceed the 120 mile range of the battery. As a PLUG IN hybrid - if you come home every night and plug in you charge the batteries for about 8 bucks - and never use the diesel fuel in your tank.
The TESLA will blow the doors off my wifes 740IL off the line AND at top speed and the 740 is not slow (let's just say it's stock pirrelli tires are Z rated).


The prius is going plug in hybrid in 09 and so are the ford hybrids.

Interesting but - HONDA as a company feels there is NO future in plug in hybrids and do not have any plans to update their hybrids to plug in, (very strange), I suspect it's because they are putting everything into thier hydrogen fuel cell car that comes out in 2010.

Hydrogen is a great way to store the energy for the electric motor instead of using a battery, but I don't see hydrogen all over the place just yet. Hydrogen would be a great alternative because all electric cars can run on hydrogen - all you do is eliminate the battery and replace it with a hydrogen tank and a fuel cell viola - you gat an electric acar with no battery - it works fine - but what do you do when the hayrogen runs out?

Hydrogen is also a good idea because reguar gas cars can be converted to run on hydrogen too, (but I don't know whay anyone would want to).

Oh Well,

The TIME HAS COME! Thank goodness - maybe now we will FINALLY be getting the cars we should have had 20 years ago.

06-10-2008, 03:20 PM
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